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16 Aug 2015, 9:23 am

Hi all,
Does anybody here use meditation for sleep and relaxation for anxiety? Please weigh in with details either way...



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17 Aug 2015, 10:08 am

I posted this as I'm suddenly experiencing severe anxiety and I REALLY need help. Any would be appreciated. It's really messing with my sleep to the point of severe suffering. Thanks in advance.



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17 Aug 2015, 10:27 am

It does help, but results are not immediate. Have you tried valerian at all? I prefer it in a tea mixed with chamomile and other relaxants. Arizona has an iced tea called Stress Herbal RX, which tastes good and is fairly effective.

If you are having such extreme anxiety medication is going to bring relief the fastest. You just have to balance side effects on some.

Hope you feel better...



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17 Aug 2015, 10:52 am

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going out right now to get that tea. I was able to treat it with marijuana, but I've stopped using it because the THC can cause heart issues at my age of 65.



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17 Aug 2015, 11:37 am

If you're experiencing anxiety and you don't want a medicinal fix, there's an interesting app called "What's Up?" (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/whats-u ... 51160?mt=8) for Android and iOS that looks like it could help relieve some of the stress. I haven't tried it, though--just heard other people raving about it.


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17 Aug 2015, 12:05 pm

Xenization wrote:
If you're experiencing anxiety and you don't want a medicinal fix, there's an interesting app called "What's Up?" (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/whats-u ... 51160?mt=8) for Android and iOS that looks like it could help relieve some of the stress. I haven't tried it, though--just heard other people raving about it.

I have no Apple devices. Is there one for pc usage?



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17 Aug 2015, 1:48 pm

pcuser wrote:
Any would be appreciated. It's really messing with my sleep to the point of severe suffering.


My purely personal experience is that meditation can help almost immediately when you try to fall in sleep.

So, what do I do? I take a normal comfortable sleeping position in my bed. Then I concentrate on following my breathing and I try not to think any other thoughts, just enjoying pacifying "nothingness". I may also have a kind of vision that I was sleeping in somebody's arms or laying in the soft grass on a sunny day. Maybe you can have this sort of "background scheme" if you think it feels good.

Of course, other thoughts are not necessarily so easy to block. So one should not try this so hard. But try to concentrate on your breathing and let other thoughts flow through your mind. Try to avoid paying much attention to them. Do not panic if you fail. Try to keep a peaceful mood, concentrating in your breathing.

This sort of meditation seems to work sometimes, sometimes not. When it works, it helps to stop the endless flow of random thoughts.

(Breathing can probably be replaced with other monotonous thing, like concentrating on listening to background noise etc.)



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17 Aug 2015, 2:26 pm

Thank you. I'll try that tonight.



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17 Aug 2015, 8:42 pm

Rodland wrote:
I concentrate on following my breathing and I try not to think any other thoughts, just enjoying pacifying "nothingness". I may also have a kind of vision that I was sleeping in somebody's arms or laying in the soft grass on a sunny day. Maybe you can have this sort of "background scheme" if you think it feels good.

Of course, other thoughts are not necessarily so easy to block. So one should not try this so hard. But try to concentrate on your breathing and let other thoughts flow through your mind. Try to avoid paying much attention to them. Do not panic if you fail. Try to keep a peaceful mood, concentrating in your breathing.

This sort of meditation seems to work sometimes, sometimes not. When it works, it helps to stop the endless flow of random thoughts.

(Breathing can probably be replaced with other monotonous thing, like concentrating on listening to background noise etc.)

Sounds very similar to my technique, which I gather is of Sufi origin. It's very simple - I just get physically comfortable and then focus on the air coming into and going out of my nostrils as I breathe. The aim is to think of nothing else at all, though it's really not important to achieve that, which is just as well because it's virtually impossible to get it perfect. All that matters is to apply very gentle pressure in that general direction. If I can inhale or exhale once without doing much in the way of thinking, it's beginning to work. Of course when I get to the end of a "successful" inhalation or exhalation I tend to think "good, I got that pretty much right," but that doesn't matter. It's a matter of being very gentle on myself and accepting that even the tiniest step towards achieving the goal is perfectly adequate, and to keep calmly putting myself back on the road (because I go off the road many times). Before I know it, I'm falling asleep.

The only times it doesn't work is when my brain is too active (often because of preoccupation with unresolved worries or intriguing problems). If that's the case, I often just give in and get up. If I really can't sleep, then trying to just makes me feel worse.

I also find it helpful to spend half an hour or so on artistic, relaxing activities before bedtime, to get the "thinking hard" part of my brain used to the idea of slowing down. Physical exercise and a few simple Yoga stretches also help. And a nice relaxing bath.

I think there's a lot of truth in the idea that anxiety is often a thing we do to ourselves (and can therefore learn to stop doing), though I also think that if we're truly in appreciable danger of nasty things happening, we have little choice but to feel rather wired until we've at least found a strategy for escaping the bad thing.