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KalahariMeerkat
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04 Apr 2007, 1:35 pm

Got this from Across the Spectrum.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/sto ... 8030805900

Rain and/or TV




http://www.freeindeedministries.org/AUTISM.pdf

Violent cartoons and video games




http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 075206.htm

Smoking during pregnancy




http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 112101.php

Stress during pregnancy




http://www.biblelife.org/pregnant.htm

The low-cholesterol and low-fat diets of the mother in combination with a protein deficiency may be the cause of autism




Let us not forget the inputs of family, friends and opinionated strangers:

It’s just a phase, he’ll outgrow it.

You worry too much

He’s just being bratty/manipulative

Spanking will cure that

Autism – isn’t that what makes people win money in Vegas?

It’s a proven fact that vaccines do not cause autism (oh, really, and exactly what does cause autism?)

ADHD is just an excuse – spank the kid.



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04 Apr 2007, 2:33 pm

There are studies showing ASD is primarily genetic by looking at incidence in identical and non-identical twins. The environmental factors that contribute apear to be unkown. What does seem to be known is that vaccines are not the cause - there are various studies (in Britain, Denmark, etc) showing no correlation between ASD and vaccines. The only study 'showing' a correlation has been retracted due to multiple flaws. What does cause it, apart from genes, as far as I know nobody really knows.


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04 Apr 2007, 3:58 pm

pbcoll wrote:
There are studies showing ASD is primarily genetic by looking at incidence in identical and non-identical twins.

Starbuline would be a nice one for this, her twin Tanya is NT.


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04 Apr 2007, 6:04 pm

pbcoll wrote:
There are studies showing ASD is primarily genetic by looking at incidence in identical and non-identical twins. The environmental factors that contribute apear to be unkown. What does seem to be known is that vaccines are not the cause - there are various studies (in Britain, Denmark, etc) showing no correlation between ASD and vaccines. The only study 'showing' a correlation has been retracted due to multiple flaws. What does cause it, apart from genes, as far as I know nobody really knows.


This is supposed to be a joke. I should have explained that.



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05 Apr 2007, 8:09 am

I think we should spread the rumour that spanking causes autism.
Also not giving kids sweets and not letting them watch tv.

Kids will love us, we will be heros...


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05 Apr 2007, 10:16 am

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Smoking during pregnancy

Yep, my mother did!

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Also true. When ma' was pregnant with me, a motherf**ker doctor told her my sister has brain tumor. (Actually my sister - who's 8,5 yrs older than me - born premature, so she had her own problems too.)



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05 Apr 2007, 11:09 am

KalahariMeerkat wrote:

It’s a proven fact that vaccines do not cause autism (oh, really, and exactly what does cause autism?)


yeah, really...
a proven fact by whom? the government and pharmaceutical companies? and exactly how do they prove it, without a doubt? can you imagine the mass hysteria it would cause if they indicated there could be even a slight chance vaccines could cause autism? not to mention $$$ the blessed pharmaceutical companies would loose...oh yeah, suppose you could throw in lawsuits also :wink:



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05 Apr 2007, 11:22 am

It is genetic. Environmental factors aren't passed down from generation to generation. There is no "explosion" in austism disorders, there is an explosion in awareness. Where there were once "nerds" their are now "victims of autism" -- oh, the drama!

Think about it. For countless generations the vast majority of the population was involved in farming. How important is social interaction in farming? How much multitasking is required to plow a field? HFA and AS would hardly have been noticed. It was always there.

Autism spectrum disorders correlate to people being crammed together in unnaturally close contact. Due to genetic variation, some enjoy it, some hate it, and some are disabled by it. Others are disabled by isolation, but we don't label them with a disorder.

So, it's genetic, and it has always been around because genetic variation is natural and good. With the sudden need for a lot of engineers, scientists, and computer types, the AS traits are probably being rewarded more than ever.



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05 Apr 2007, 1:46 pm

http://www.freeindeedministries.org/AUTISM.pdf

this one is BS ....spirits and thief's spirits HA!! !



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05 Apr 2007, 1:56 pm

Pappy wrote:
So, it's genetic, and it has always been around because genetic variation is natural and good. With the sudden need for a lot of engineers, scientists, and computer types, the AS traits are probably being rewarded more than ever.


Exactly! I have AS and the only vaccination I received as a child was for polio. The vaccination theory cannot account for dino-aspies.


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05 Apr 2007, 2:17 pm

OMG! SOme of those theories are really out there! I myself can debunk a few of them w/ anecdotal evidence. My oldest son was born in rainy central PA. My youngest son was born here in IN where they have had a terrible drought for the last several years. Both my oldest and youngest have AS (well, youngest is WAY too young to diagnose, but we know. ;)) I don't, and NEVER in my entire life have, watch much tv. Maybe 2-4 hours PER WEEK total on average. I don't smoke, never have. I don't play video games. At least not often. Maybe for 2 hours a month. I had a stressful pregnancy w/ my oldest and second sons. My 2nd son is NT. I didn't work while pregnant w/ my third and I had a homebirth w/ a lovely midwife, so his pregnancy wasn't stressfull. I wouldn't say I eat a really high fat diet, but my diet is definitely not low fat. And I eat meat, so there's some cholesterol in it (and I have high cholesterol whether I eat meat or not, so low cholesterol wouldn't be a problem for my babies anyway. Cholesterol is very important for brain development, btw, which is why infants should nurse or get whole cow's milk for 2 years. Formula milk has no cholesterol in it, which I can't understand.)

Let's see... what else was there. Oh, my youngest hasn't been vaccinated yet, so that's not the issue... Any other theories?

I personally think it is a combination of genetics and environment. You have to have the genes for it, but those genes have to be "turned" on by something in the environment. Maybe pollution (air, water, and don't forget food!)

But whatever, there have always been people w/ AS. It's just in teh past we were the eccentric old guy painting pictures or doing mysterious science experiments in his lonely house up on the hill whereas now, we're that weirdo who lives in teh apartment next door.



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05 Apr 2007, 2:18 pm

I think it's caused by some good genes. :P


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