Is is ok that some aspies are not proud of themselves?

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24 Jan 2016, 9:18 pm

I'm guessing some aspies are not proud of themselves. I can only speak on my experience and I can say I'm not proud of myself. I don't have good self esteem really. On a bad day it's horrible. On a good day its just ok. I don't like it when people say it will get better. That's a lie.



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24 Jan 2016, 9:40 pm

It's hard to have pride when you're told your whole life you need to be ashamed.


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24 Jan 2016, 10:40 pm

It's better to be humble than it is to be proud. I enjoy some of the perks that it has to offer. I don't wish for a cure, but I'm not the Pride Mite that I was before Christmas and New Years. I like being an aspie, though.


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24 Jan 2016, 10:45 pm

Im proud sometimes, but when im low im REALLY low... im out of school at the moment and i feel so guilty, i cant got to the school because of how bad my panic attacks are... i feel like a pathetic piece of s**t..


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25 Jan 2016, 12:06 am

I feel pride sometimes. But it's a real stumbling block with me. When I get excited that I've done something, it can come across as boastful instead of what it really is: Surprise that it worked out well after all.

I've been fortunate though. I've had some really good, humbling experiences.

But, for the most part, not being able to do the simple things, take part in society on a level enjoyed by most just beats me down.


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25 Jan 2016, 12:27 am

It's ok to feel the way that you feel. I think a lot of people here feel bad about themselves. I know I do. I'm proud of certain aspects of myself, and not happy with other parts of my personality.

Feeling different I think tends to negatively affect self-esteem.



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25 Jan 2016, 2:17 am

neptunekh wrote:
I'm guessing some aspies are not proud of themselves. I can only speak on my experience and I can say I'm not proud of myself. I don't have good self esteem really. On a bad day it's horrible. On a good day its just ok. I don't like it when people say it will get better. That's a lie.



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25 Jan 2016, 5:46 am

It's OK to say you're not proud if you're not. Feelings should be expressed honestly rather than hidden.

However, you would probably be a lot happier if you could learn to feel pride in it somehow. So in that sense, it's not OK that some aspies don't feel proud, because it's something that makes them unhappy. Just like it's not OK that depression is more common in aspies, but it's OK to come forward and say 'I'm a depressed aspie'.



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25 Jan 2016, 5:57 am

I see it as a mistake to be proud of oneself. I think it's OK to be proud of particular achievements, but anything more personal than that seems like hubris to me. But I think it's good to like yourself, and self-confidence is very useful, again as long as it's not taken too far.



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25 Jan 2016, 10:08 am

You shouldn't be proud of anything other than personal achievements---certainly not of having been born this or that way, which you had no part in.


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25 Jan 2016, 10:57 am

No, it is not OK that some are not proud of themselves. That's not to shame the aspies, but their support system.

I look for opportunities to praise my aspie daughter for doing something I know was hard, even though it might be something that NTs do as a matter of course.

Self-acceptance comes when measuring yourself against your true abilities, not some mythical standard out there. If my daughter has trouble making phone calls, but does it anyway and achieved what she needed to, she gets praised. For some of you (and sometimes, for my daughter), it's getting dressed and leaving the apartment for just a few moments, and if that's hard and you did it anyway, you should feel proud of yourself.

Or maybe it's taking a shower and brushing your teeth.

Learn to say silently in your own mind, "Good job!" when you accomplish something you thought was too hard. Seriously, this kind of self-encouragement can trick you into being more functional.


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25 Jan 2016, 11:16 am

My wife and I decided to sail around the Caribbean. We got ripped off like crazy in the boatyards and decided to do everything ourselves. We had to take our heavy diesel engine out a few times and strip it down to change things like the big end shells. My wife worked out how to rig up a system of pulleys to line up the engine when putting it back. We could change the filters and bleed the system. We found out why most people wouldn't go the out of the way islands. It was because there were no mechanics if things went wrong. We felt quite proud of ourselves that we could do more than most people.
After meeting a couple of Brits who hadn't used their engine for years and derided us for using ours, we decided to pull up the anchor and sail away under sail too. People used to call us on the radio and say how elegant it looked which boosted our egos.



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25 Jan 2016, 11:38 am

I've done nothing worth being proud of, so I think it would be not okay if I were proud of myself.



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25 Jan 2016, 11:42 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
I've done nothing worth being proud of, so I think it would be not okay if I were proud of myself.
I have had many accomplishments. But the odd thing is that they are also the albatross that hangs around my neck to remind me of how I have totally messed things up because of my inability to interact properly with people.

Kind of a double edged sword there.


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25 Jan 2016, 12:37 pm

I'm not proud - I feel more apologetic because I know that my way of seeing and relating to the world is out of step with the majority and that seems to cause problems for folks. I try hard to fit in and do the right thing but I do get it wrong quite often.


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25 Jan 2016, 1:59 pm

BeaArthur wrote:
Self-acceptance comes when measuring yourself against your true abilities, not some mythical standard out there. If my daughter has trouble making phone calls, but does it anyway and achieved what she needed to, she gets praised. For some of you (and sometimes, for my daughter), it's getting dressed and leaving the apartment for just a few moments, and if that's hard and you did it anyway, you should feel proud of yourself.

Or maybe it's taking a shower and brushing your teeth.

Learn to say silently in your own mind, "Good job!" when you accomplish something you thought was too hard. Seriously, this kind of self-encouragement can trick you into being more functional.


I agree. I wish I was better able to do this, but you are right.