Trouble remembering events during conversations? Memory?

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04 Mar 2016, 4:00 am

Does this happen to anyone? Can anyone shed light on what it may be? When iam trying to recall events during a conversation I have trouble doing this.(incidents can also be very recent) This can lead to me trying to plug the gaps, if I sat and thought about the past incidents for a while I can usually(not always) recall them but it sometimes can take a while. This can make conversations difficult and I avoid at times. Is this a specific memory issue? The way I would describe it would be like trying to remember which way to go during a car journey( that I have been before) I can't so i have too guess. There is also another issue, there are times when people ask me questions at work etc and I can't understand what they mean. They repeat it but i still don't understand what they mean. Once someone else answers it's usually something really simple but at the time it sounded really complex, almost like a really math question that I haven't got the answer too. does this happen to anyone? If so what is it?



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04 Mar 2016, 10:02 am

I have a insane memory for details but if someone would ask me what to eat, I'd have to have 30 minutes to decide lol.


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04 Mar 2016, 11:29 am

Pieplup wrote:
I have a insane memory for details but if someone would ask me what to eat, I'd have to have 30 minutes to decide lol.

Lol I have terrible issues with decisions. Ive spent days making some decision :0O



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04 Mar 2016, 11:35 am

I get this too. I think it's because the social environment and sensory overload cloud my mind. I'm too focused on laughing when I supposed to, bits of eye contact now and then, not getting in peoples way, coming up with replies, squinting because of light, not being distracted by background noise or people moving, etc. This doesn't leave much room for recalling events or thinking too hard on the content matter.



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04 Mar 2016, 11:36 am

I have this problem, OP.

It's like my brain freezes when I'm talking to someone. I have trouble understanding them and can't recall simple things. It's part of the whole social awkwardness of autism for me. There are so many things going on that my brain can't function.



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04 Mar 2016, 11:39 am

My memory lets me down all the time. My mind works in an interesting way. If something interests me, I'll have no trouble remembering details very accurately. If it's boring and I couldn't care less, I'll forget about it immediately. Similarly it will be easier to recall the name of attractive or interesting people. So if I don't remember who you are, you know the reason... :D

Seriously though, it's not the best. I had to study a lot harder in high school than the average student and eventually quit uni because of it.



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04 Mar 2016, 1:51 pm

I'm glad it's not just me then :0S I usually find stressful scenarios make it worse. But even non stressful scenarios when I'm trying to recall it is a problem. Has the deficit got a specific name? Or parts of memory that cause it? Would it be episodal memory? Rote memory? Long term memory? All of them or something else?



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04 Mar 2016, 2:27 pm

TheAvenger161173 wrote:
I'm glad it's not just me then :0S I usually find stressful scenarios make it worse. But even non stressful scenarios when I'm trying to recall it is a problem. Has the deficit got a specific name? Or parts of memory that cause it? Would it be episodal memory? Rote memory? Long term memory? All of them or something else?


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Working memory, a critical executive functioning skill, is where you store the information you need to complete a task. If you are reading a story, for example, you will store information about what you have read here. As you continue to read, your working memory helps you recall what already happened and relate it to what you are reading now. Working memory is essential in learning and everyday tasks...
...You are having a conversation with a friend. You find it difficult to follow the conversation, forgetting what your friend said just moments before.

http://www.additudemag.com/quiz/14/question-1.html

I experience this, if I am healthy and stress free its usually an occasional 'glitch', but introduce environmental factors like stress, anxiety/ill health and it feels like the working memory part of my brain is only partially functioning.



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05 Mar 2016, 3:32 am

Amity wrote:
TheAvenger161173 wrote:
I'm glad it's not just me then :0S I usually find stressful scenarios make it worse. But even non stressful scenarios when I'm trying to recall it is a problem. Has the deficit got a specific name? Or parts of memory that cause it? Would it be episodal memory? Rote memory? Long term memory? All of them or something else?


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Working memory, a critical executive functioning skill, is where you store the information you need to complete a task. If you are reading a story, for example, you will store information about what you have read here. As you continue to read, your working memory helps you recall what already happened and relate it to what you are reading now. Working memory is essential in learning and everyday tasks...
...You are having a conversation with a friend. You find it difficult to follow the conversation, forgetting what your friend said just moments before.

http://www.additudemag.com/quiz/14/question-1.html

I experience this, if I am healthy and stress free its usually an occasional 'glitch', but introduce environmental factors like stress, anxiety/ill health and it feels like the working memory part of my brain is only partially functioning.



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05 Mar 2016, 3:58 am

My ability to remember events, conversations and what I have said (written) to someone is usually pretty fuzzy.



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05 Mar 2016, 7:34 am

I'm trying to underline exactly what it is,if it is executive function is it the specific short term or long term or both? I've read eposodal/declarative memory can be an issue, is that part of the executive function also?



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05 Mar 2016, 7:58 am

I have enough trouble forming coherent sentences XD. My conversational eloquence has actually gotten worse over the years... perhaps because with school no longer being an issue, I don't have enough reason to regularly practice socialising.

As for remembering events... I don't know, I mean... I think I can remember events in a conversation but have difficulty then putting those memories into words. I can sit there going "ummm" for a few minutes before giving out a semi-intelligible account. But then I do that with a lot of thoughts and concepts too. Honestly, I have more issue with short-term memorising... things like if I need to copy down a short list of numbers, I have to keep checking back every 5 seconds because I've already forgotten all of it. And often times I forget what someone's said a few sentences ago and have to backtrack the conversation to remember what they were talking about.

I've also had moments when someone says something and I'm like "what...?", not really getting what they're trying to say, and yet they look at me as if they think my brain has melted or something. They then repeat it in equally perplexing, alternate ways.

Another thing brought up in this thread I can empathise with is indecision. My god, I drive my parents crazy. "Why can't you just decide!?" If I had a penny for every time I've heard something along those lines...


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05 Mar 2016, 9:58 am

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I have enough trouble forming coherent sentences XD. My conversational eloquence has actually gotten worse over the years... perhaps because with school no longer being an issue, I don't have enough reason to regularly practice socialising.

As for remembering events... I don't know, I mean... I think I can remember events in a conversation but have difficulty then putting those memories into words. I can sit there going "ummm" for a few minutes before giving out a semi-intelligible account. But then I do that with a lot of thoughts and concepts too. Honestly, I have more issue with short-term memorising... things like if I need to copy down a short list of numbers, I have to keep checking back every 5 seconds because I've already forgotten all of it. And often times I forget what someone's said a few sentences ago and have to backtrack the conversation to remember what they were talking about.

I've also had moments when someone says something and I'm like "what...?", not really getting what they're trying to say, and yet they look at me as if they think my brain has melted or something. They then repeat it in equally perplexing, alternate ways.

Another thing brought up in this thread I can empathise with is indecision. My god, I drive my parents crazy. "Why can't you just decide!?" If I had a penny for every time I've heard something along those lines...
That's a good point about school. At school although i hated it I was forced to socialise. I'm years gone from school and il avoid socialising as much as possible. I've been through the "trying to fit in phase" which ended up me taking recreational drugs,alcohol etc and also going over board on medication, now I don't care I'm comfortable to a certain degree. When I was younger I wanted to fit in and have lots of friends, now everyone in my circle knows me and I'm "mad" etc and being different makes me fit in. It's took till I was well advanced in years to realise I don't need to fit in my friends take me for what iam and wouldn't have me any other way. I would like a better memory though, that would be nice :0D



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05 Mar 2016, 10:08 am

I remain convinced that I am intellectually handicapped because my memory is so remarkably poor that it's almost laughable. My mind seems to be either empty or in an utterly bewildered maelstrom. I hate my brain.


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05 Mar 2016, 12:29 pm

I'm ok in a quiet environment with only one person.

If it's more than one person, it gets overwhelming because I can only focus on one person at a time. Then, if the information is contradictory, it really throws me. I have trouble sorting opinion from the needs of the job. Make sense? And people love to talk all over each other. How the hell do they sort that?

If in a noisy or chaotic environment, it's just mostly muddle and most of my thought processes are put towards trying to reconstruct sounds into meaningful information. Then I get really lost.

Anyway, after a short time, it's more about juggling what is happening at the moment and all the input sorting, I just can't keep up on the fly. Some things I can sort through later, but it confuses the opinion vs. fact parts, and, who knows what I was missing while doing all that sorting and catching up.


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06 Mar 2016, 11:31 am

A perfect example last night. It was the Girlfriends birthday. I booked a quiet hotel near by. I've been learning Spanish for the last year. I thought that I would try and remember phrases in Spanish(as an exercise)that I would ask(as if I was in Spain)(we are not in Spain but you get the idea). I could not think of anything. We got to our room and it took me a long time to even put a coherent Spanish sentence together. I get home today on my own, I put the dvd on. The narrator starts speaking and instantly I get Spanish popping in my head. It's like I shut down whenever I'm around people or there's a lot of stimulation of any kind or in a situation I'm not familiar with. Even around friends having normal conversations I find myself trying to plug gaps and make coherent conversations and make myself seem normal. I feel like everyone is walking on a long wide easy to traverse road,while I'm juggling on a long thin tight rope just to remain average :0/