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What Persuasian does his autism fall?
AS 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
AS 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
HFA 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
HFA 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
ASD 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
ASD 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
LFA 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
LFA 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
Not Sure 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Not Sure 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Don't Care 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Don't Care 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 18

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19 May 2005, 6:07 pm

1)...The Question?

Any comments about these observations, and
your own as well?

2)...Statements by Ghosthunter!

the Book and Author wrote:
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the
Nighttime" by Mark Haddon

Published by: By Vintage Contemporaries ©03'

Pages: 226

Cost: $12.00


AS related observations wrote:
Test line!



HFA related observations wrote:
Test line!



ASD related observations wrote:
Test line!



LFA related observations wrote:
Test line!



3)...The Question Repeated!

Any comments about these observations, and
your own as well?



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19 May 2005, 6:22 pm

Oops!



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19 May 2005, 9:46 pm

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19 May 2005, 11:13 pm

Just in case you folks are confused?
This is a sample note sheet of detailed
referencing of the book. I am currently
dissecting it in this though process.

Below is a sample idea:

Ghosthunter wrote:
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:07 am    
Post subject: "The Curious Incident"
Dissection of AS/HFA Simila
----------------------------------
I just finished the first read, and will
do a second that will use notes, not my
memory of my first read; that is how
this Phase I review is being formed!


1)...The Question?

Any comments about these observations, and
your own as well?

2)...Statements by Ghosthunter!

the Book and Author wrote:

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the
Nighttime" by Mark Haddon

Published by: By Vintage Contemporaries ©03'

Pages: 226

Cost: $12.00



AS related observations wrote:


• Pg 66, #103: Rhoderi asks, "what is
251x864" and Christopher immediately
formulates and that is a AS trait.



HFA related observations wrote:

Test line! since I remember nothing
specific except a reference to when
his brain wasn't thinking properly
at a younger age!



ASD related observations wrote:


• Pg 112, #161....."The post letters incident"
Fathers view!
"Oh! Christ(he say's)....He put his hand on
my shoulder and moved me onto to my side
....

Sons view!
"I feel giddy, it was like the room was swinging
side to side....it must have been something
inside my head.....I rolled up and curled up
on the bed....."I don't know what happened
because because their was a gap in my memory"
....."There was sick was sick all over the bed,
and on my hands and arms and face".

Later when his father comes home:
"It was strange because he was calling my name....
and I could see my name being written out
as he was saying it" and "It was written in my
mothers writing"...."I could tell he was in the
room but his voice sounded tiny and far away"
.....(associated with groaning and peoples voices)
or "When I don't want people near me"......
and after he moved him to his side, "I could see
him touching me like I was watching a film of what
was happening in the room"......"I could hardly feel
his hand at all, it was like the wind was blowing
against me"......



LFA related observations wrote:

I would say his incidents at the subway judging
by his reactions!


This is all that comes to mind for now.

3)...The Question Repeated!

Any comments about these observations, and
your own as well?Back to top [/quote]
 
Ghosthunter wrote:
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:22 am    
Post subject: My comment, not referring
to book Pgs & #'s
--------------------------
I see that his slipping in and out of factual data
is very AS and there is too numerous to use in
my memory based review. The one that stood
out was when the officer talked with him about
if he was alright. Apparently he was extremely
zoning, and that seems to be overexpressed
in the book.

I see his interest in numbers very AS as well,
except his lower intelligence is obvious externally,
stronger externally and this might fall into HFA,
BUT...HFA'rs have a better poetic skill, and he
was verbally AS.

I shall use a example:

AS person using my perspective and the book.....
example wrote:

Hi! How was your day? Say's someone. And
that person might respond(?) Fine!, but think
of colors, sounds, science & math, ect.... but
shows no particular interest in expressing it,
but silently practice it?


This differs in HFA.......
example wrote:

Hi! How was your day? Say's someone. And
I would say, but uncomfortable saying it this
simply, Fine. If permitted I would flow in
volunteery words........
"And let's see? I did this dissection project, but it
didn't seem to work out"-pause-dissection of
thoughts-and a continuation....."There is a
corolation between the facts here and there"
-pause-dissection of thoughts, ect....!


This isn't happening in any form in this book
that leads me to the conclusion of LFA-NO! he
would still want to express! but a lesser form
of AS.

Hmmmm?
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20 May 2005, 12:47 am

His reactions at the subway are what I would call shutdown. So are some of the other reactions. I think a static level of functioning is an illusion. So I don't tend to classify people in that way, I think Christopher as a character is a good argument for not classifying people.

This is about shutdown:
http://www.shutdownsandstressinautism.com/

There are different kinds of autism but they are not called AS, HFA, and LFA, there are not names for them. Two people can be the same kind of autism but have one called AS and one called LFA based on a couple fairly meaningless but obvious characteristics. I think some people see differences in autistic traits and think that means that the person can be classified differently -- such as thinking in pictures vs. words and saying one is AS and the other is HFA (I have seen people go both ways on that one). It's really just a difference in thinking, has nothing to do with which diagnosis a person meets.

I am autistic. That is my diagnosis (just "autistic disorder") but what others call AS, HFA, LFA, and PDD-NOS, I also call autism. Then I divide based on characteristics rather than based on the false subdivisions NTs gave us.

Another thing on that:

http://www.autistics.org/library/theoakmanifesto.html

If I have to be classified I am an Oak Tree, not a High Functioning Tree, a Low Functioning Tree, a Kanner Tree, or an Asperger Tree. Christopher is not an Oak Tree but he is some kind of Tree just like all autistics are. He could be an Elm Tree or a Maple Tree or a Pine Tree or something, but not an AS or HFA or LFA or Kanner Tree (I won't use those words on people generally).



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20 May 2005, 2:55 pm

And I agree!

I for example show higher writing expression
like you do, yet the AS'ers I have encountered
on this site don't do these higher writing
expression probings to get to the roots
of the issues, topics, and problems.

Elfman, Ghosthunter, Danlo, Pyraxis,
and you anbuend exhitibit this characteristic,
yet Christopher may not on paper, but
in thought.

I have I alway's said, and so the rest of
our Autistic(or HFA'rs if you choose) show
this thought tendacies. Welcome, my
Autistic(or HFA'r)-Brother!

Ghosthunter :D