Are your co-morbidly worse than your core traits?

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18 Mar 2016, 6:32 am

The main problems I have are a lack of energy and motivation, executive dysfunction, depression and anxiety. None of those are core traits. Anyone less like this?


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18 Mar 2016, 8:49 am

I experience all that you experience.

I'm lucky that they are not always present in me.

However, when they are present, they tend to "complement" each other in a negative way.



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18 Mar 2016, 9:16 am

DevilKisses wrote:
The main problems I have are a lack of energy and motivation, executive dysfunction, depression and anxiety. None of those are core traits. Anyone less like this?
I experience, Learning Disabilities. and Those to. Also, Motor dysfunction. Stimming ect.


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18 Mar 2016, 9:42 am

I think my anxiety is the worse and how I process things and learn. My husband thinks mine is socialization.


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18 Mar 2016, 12:05 pm

I don't have any comorbidities.


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18 Mar 2016, 12:11 pm

I'd say my top 3 worst symptoms are:

1. Sensory overload
2. Stress-related physical symptoms
3. Not understanding people, or how the world works



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18 Mar 2016, 2:34 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
The main problems I have are a lack of energy and motivation, executive dysfunction, depression and anxiety. None of those are core traits. Anyone less like this?


I'm officially diagnosed with ADHD and anxiety, so I think, yes, these issues are worse or, at least, more obvious to others than socializing problems, obsessive interests or sensory issues (though the last is definitely noticed by everyone). Maybe some of these symptoms could be treated with medication. ADHD meds were a life-changer for me.


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18 Mar 2016, 2:49 pm

GreyEyedOwl wrote:
DevilKisses wrote:
The main problems I have are a lack of energy and motivation, executive dysfunction, depression and anxiety. None of those are core traits. Anyone less like this?


I'm officially diagnosed with ADHD and anxiety, so I think, yes, these issues are worse or, at least, more obvious to others than socializing problems, obsessive interests or sensory issues (though the last is definitely noticed by everyone). Maybe some of these symptoms could be treated with medication. ADHD meds were a life-changer for me.

I'm not actually diagnosed with ADHD, but I suspect I have it.


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19 Mar 2016, 2:27 am

Yeah, my asthma, allergies, stomach upsets, dry skin, eczema, math problems, anxiety, slow in executing lot of tasks and concentration problems are very definitely worse for me. Some of them interfere with my life on daily basis, others have contributed to determine my future (things I can and cannot do), and they are the ones that affect my well-being.


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19 Mar 2016, 3:43 am

Yes, my lack of sleep pattern is debilitating. My PTSD is very bad too, as is my UC. If I was "just Autistic", I would be much better off even with my heavy load of sensory issues.


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19 Mar 2016, 4:18 am

Depends on what is defined as a "co-morbidity." I have chronic insomnia and erratic sleep patterns, which are not uncommon for those with ASD. That would be my worst problem. I guess that's not necessarily specifically caused by autism, so I suppose it's a comorbidity.

Second would be executive functioning, with which I include my obsessions, because being unable to stop spending time on obsessions and move onto important responsibilities is related to problems with executive functioning (for me), in my opinion. Poor executive functioning is a trait of ASD, however.

Then I guess sensory issues would be next, followed by problems with socializing, all symptoms of ASD.

I also have anxiety and depression. I suspect the depression is situational, so it doesn't really count. The anxiety is usually not severe.



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19 Mar 2016, 6:38 am

1.my executive function disorder affects me the very most, i causes trouble in doing simple things like going to sleep and eating.
2.handling change, dealing with stress and adjusting to change is second hardest
3.my ability to focus on anything at all
4, Anxiety, panic attacks from a change in routine has ruined a lot in my life
5.my Emotions; they're out of control
6.socialization, not knowing what the hell body language looks like doesn't bother me but socializing is extremely tiring and takes all my energy, making school and work exhausting making anxiety worse
7. sensory issues, pretty much the same as social issues
8. racing thoughts are a sh***y experience.

i think my OCD and ADHD stick out a lot and of course, here are all the diagnoses i know about

1.Autism Spectrum Disorder
2. ADHD
3. OCD.
4. GAD
5. Depression

the rest i dont know or cant remember. these were all diagnosed, none were self diagnosed.


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19 Mar 2016, 2:08 pm

@ ZombieBrideXD

I was told that OCD and ADHD are usually not diagnosed along with autism, because the symptoms are best explained by an ASD, and are likely not separate disorders.

The psychologist said that usually after clients come to the office and are diagnosed with ASD, all the diagnoses that are more likely explained by having ASD are removed.

So in my case, I was originally diagnosed in the past with generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety, OCD, and depression; it was also speculated that I had other disorders. I was borderline for ADHD symptoms when I was diagnosed with autism. So when I was diagnosed with ASD, the diagnoses of social anxiety and OCD were removed and ADHD was not used because it was all better explained by my having autism.

I'm not sure if that's typical for all psychologists, but that's what I was told.



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19 Mar 2016, 3:25 pm

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I was told that OCD and ADHD are usually not diagnosed along with autism, because the symptoms are best explained by an ASD, and are likely not separate disorders.

The psychologist said that usually after clients come to the office and are diagnosed with ASD, all the diagnoses that are more likely explained by having ASD are removed.

So in my case, I was originally diagnosed in the past with generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety, OCD, and depression; it was also speculated that I had other disorders. I was borderline for ADHD symptoms when I was diagnosed with autism. So when I was diagnosed with ASD, the diagnoses of social anxiety and OCD were removed and ADHD was not used because it was all better explained by my having autism.

I'm not sure if that's typical for all psychologists, but that's what I was told.


Yeah i never understood that, it always seemed redundant to me.

i think its because i saw a LOT of different psychologists, a few diagnosed me with ASD but sometimes if i went to the emergancy room they would say "i think you have severe ADHD"

i dont really understand it either, all i know is when i went to see my regular psychologist he said he got a file that said i had 7 diagnoses soooo i never really went into questioning about it. He says that ASD usually comes WITH a ADHD or OCD diagnoses anyways

one doctor said that she didnt think i had ASD but Nonverbal Learning disability, ADHD, OCD and Sensory Processing disorder, and i said "...isnt that kinda redundant" but after a test it showed that my visual and spatial skills were average or above average so it rules out NVLD

doctors never tell me anything, maybe its because im in canada.


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19 Mar 2016, 3:51 pm

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I was told that OCD and ADHD are usually not diagnosed along with autism, because the symptoms are best explained by an ASD, and are likely not separate disorders.

The psychologist said that usually after clients come to the office and are diagnosed with ASD, all the diagnoses that are more likely explained by having ASD are removed.

So in my case, I was originally diagnosed in the past with generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety, OCD, and depression; it was also speculated that I had other disorders. I was borderline for ADHD symptoms when I was diagnosed with autism. So when I was diagnosed with ASD, the diagnoses of social anxiety and OCD were removed and ADHD was not used because it was all better explained by my having autism.

I'm not sure if that's typical for all psychologists, but that's what I was told.

I find that belief incredibly annoying. I guess the person who diagnosed me believed that as well. I actually wish I was diagnosed with ADHD and OCD. Mainly because I'm pretty much a person with moderate ADHD who has very mild autistic traits. I think I would be better off if people paid attention to my ADHD and ignored my autistic traits. Right now people only pay attention to my autistic traits and don't even know my ADHD traits exist.


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19 Mar 2016, 5:13 pm

Yigeren wrote:
@ ZombieBrideXD

I was told that OCD and ADHD are usually not diagnosed along with autism, because the symptoms are best explained by an ASD, and are likely not separate disorders.

The psychologist said that usually after clients come to the office and are diagnosed with ASD, all the diagnoses that are more likely explained by having ASD are removed.

So in my case, I was originally diagnosed in the past with generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety, OCD, and depression; it was also speculated that I had other disorders. I was borderline for ADHD symptoms when I was diagnosed with autism. So when I was diagnosed with ASD, the diagnoses of social anxiety and OCD were removed and ADHD was not used because it was all better explained by my having autism.

I'm not sure if that's typical for all psychologists, but that's what I was told.


It makes more sense to keep the other disorders if you have them, since social anxiety and OCD are not core to autism.
Social deficits in autism is distinct from social anxiety, and repetitive behaviors in autism are distinct from OCD.
But if the other disorders were misdiagnoses based on core traits of autism, then it makes sense to remove them.
Executive dysfunction is not actually a core trait of autism, so it would be a comorbid too.


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