Celebrity deaths don't affect me much

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ocdgirl123
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30 Dec 2016, 2:37 pm

My uncle died in March and I felt pretty sad about it. However, I don't feel this way about celebrity deaths. I mean, I feel bad for their families, but I just don't feel as sad as when my own family or friends die. If it's a celebrity I liked, I do feel pretty sad, but if it's one I didn't know very well, I don't feel that sad about it.

Is this wrong?


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30 Dec 2016, 2:39 pm

Sounds pretty normal to me.... :D


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30 Dec 2016, 2:52 pm

I can think of some clever remarks, along the lines of lawyer jokes and turd polish, but, when I take time to learn about these people, some were gifted and legitimately-special.

No, I didn't buy the over-priced T-shirt, or collectible set, or build that stalker-ish altar, in my closet, with the hair clippings and candles.

In school, the administrators were profiling the students, during the deaths of Kirk Cobain, Tupac, etc, etc. and offering unwanted counseling, in front of the class. Depending on your fashion sense, they would pressure you into saying you wouldn't go postal, or you would have incriminated yourself, by not wanting to participate.



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30 Dec 2016, 4:37 pm

I guess for us, it's hard to comment. The real world of celebrity stardom and holywood is inaccessible to us normal people. I have had a glimpse of it due to the music that i am into, and for a short time, some altruistic endeavors which were related to politics.

What i have seen, i can't say i like much. Self obsessed, materialistic people, who are all pushing themselves to the top of the tree, use and abuse who ever is in their path. Abuse their influence to ruin people, sometimes due to competition, sometimes due to politics and at other times simply just because they can.

It really is the ugly side of humanity, even if it looks glitzy and glamorous from afar.

Funny really, i originally got into music for connecting with people and for expressing myself creatively and spiritually. But when i got to uni, which incidentally was one of the famous performing arts colleges, how surprised i was at what cut throat ruthless materialistic a holes many of the people at the college were, and that included the teachers.

But there ya go, i guess where ever there is large amounts of money to be made. Where ever there is special treatment and lots of glamour, there are going to be loads of competition.
Firstly from those with talent but as much so from the liars, the thieves, the con men and the delusionals.

In this celebrity obsessed day and age, practically everyone wants to be a "star" and some people will do anything to get there. AND i really do mean ANYTHING. STEAL, MURDER, LIE, SLANDER (remember that one Lily and my ex-wife). They will do ANYTHING to be in the SPOT LIGHT (or should i say TWOT light)...

You only have to watch Pop Idol or X-Factor auditions to see that what i say is true.

Personally, i feel that the celebrity world is destructive and delusional in nature.

Not that some of the celebs aren't really talented. They are, no doubt about that (but perhaps not all of them).
Talent is not enough.

Nonetheless. The celebrity world is highly competitive and has more than one or two nut cases who still have major influence over. People like Roman Polanski are still around, still imposing their "influence".
Due to the competitiveness of the industry, in a world that is infested with music gangsters and black occultists.
I would speculate that not all of the deaths that have happened over the past few years are due to natural causes.
Even if they may be reported so.

I also feel that some of the deaths may also be politically connected. As, people in politics at Global level, are playing "The Great Game", and will do so at any cost. Taking out all the celebs who oppose your cause, takes away their influence and their power.

If the deaths aren't politically related, some of them again could be related to syndicates within the industry who are establishing dominance.

Then, in addition, there are those in the industry who follow specific religious or occult beliefs. These people may also have their own ulterior motives or perhaps some of the deaths may even be part of what they call worship.

Please note. All above just speculation. Please dont take offense. I am just speculating to stimulate debate and thought.

Nonetheless, i think not being a celebrity is probably safer in this complex modern world and ultimately better for the spiritual path.

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30 Dec 2016, 5:09 pm

Celebrity deaths don't affect me much, either. The deaths of people, and pets, I love, affect me deeply. Most celebrities make pretty poor lifestyle choices that contribute to an early death and a lot of these people just aren't good, or nice people all around.



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30 Dec 2016, 5:14 pm

I don't feel anything when celebrities die and cringe when people start drowning in their own tears over somebody they never actually knew or met.


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30 Dec 2016, 5:15 pm

These people are not a member of my immediate circle.

I feel a little bit when a celebrity dies----but I certainly do not mourn for them for any length of time.



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30 Dec 2016, 5:18 pm

ocdgirl123 wrote:
Is this wrong?


More right than any other reaction.



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30 Dec 2016, 5:25 pm

ocdgirl123 wrote:
My uncle died in March and I felt pretty sad about it. However, I don't feel this way about celebrity deaths. I mean, I feel bad for their families, but I just don't feel as sad as when my own family or friends die. If it's a celebrity I liked, I do feel pretty sad, but if it's one I didn't know very well, I don't feel that sad about it.

Is this wrong?


With the advent of social media , so came the outpouring of grief towards celebrities after their death. I am not saying that these outpourings are wrong in any way but sometimes they do make you question your own feelings and why do I feel nothing , or why am I not affected when so & so dies. I'm not sure I am able to deal with grief so my mind won't let me do it. The only celebrity that has ever made me a little shocked was Lady Diana.


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30 Dec 2016, 5:30 pm

In 1954, when Johnny Ace killed himself playing Russian Roulette, there was a great outpouring of grief. Johnny Ace became a sort of a "martyr," in a sense. He is considered the first "rock-n-roll" death.

This was, of course, way before social media.



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30 Dec 2016, 5:33 pm

...I was going to bring this up , there,s been a lot of comment in the States this year abouut the so-called ; oerdose of celebrity deaths ; .
I think alot of it has simply been the 60s rock,n,roll generation ;(plus some a little before and after) tending to reach the age of death, and so they die , not in a : misadventure :/dramatic manner , or because of a large dose of the usual bad habits , but because they,ve gotten old - David Bowie and Bobby Vee and Glenn Frey , etc. , just like a local insurance agent or minister or hot-dog stand owner ! :D


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30 Dec 2016, 5:37 pm

ocdgirl123 wrote:
Is this wrong?

OhkaBaka wrote:
More right than any other reaction.

I think, you would usually want to say something tasteful or relevant, when put on the spot, but most people won't feel any real grief, unless that person was an all-consuming niche interest, to them.

Some will even make yearly pilgrimages, say, to Graceland or the gravestones of poets.

Usually, is just treated like some random, colorful person on the, news, like the person on the oatmeal box or bottle of pancake syrup.



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30 Dec 2016, 5:59 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
I think, you would usually want to say something tasteful or relevant, when put on the spot, but most people won't feel any real grief, unless that person was an all-consuming niche interest, to them.


That is important... and tricky...

The Carrie Fisher for example, is interesting... She spent most of her life in various levels of divorce from the idea and character of Leia, but that isn't stopping the grieving masses from dressing up in star wars cosplay and celebrating that tiny singular aspect of who she was. It might be kinda insulting to her, honestly, that THAT is what they are celebrating... BUT those people are grieving for THEIR own loss in their own way, and that isn't hurting anyone.

While it may not (healthy or otherwise [my money is on healthy]) affect you, it is always important to remember others feelings are real.

When Stan Lee and Sting go... I'm gonna have a moment, I can't lie... but I won't think it odd if no one else reacts.



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30 Dec 2016, 6:04 pm

No.

There are some celebrities I feel very close to (Bowie immediately springs to mind) and others I don't feel so close to. Some others I don't feel particularly close to but am sad about usually due to the manner of death (Debbie Reynolds for example).

As they say, different strokes for different folks.


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30 Dec 2016, 6:27 pm

Fraser_1990 wrote:
I don't feel anything when celebrities die and cringe when people start drowning in their own tears over somebody they never actually knew or met.


Ditto.



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30 Dec 2016, 7:06 pm

Me, neither. Most of the time, it's someone I've never even heard of. Just another ordinary person who has reached the end of their life. Being famous doesn't make them any more special.