What else is there thatcould give me symptoms of Asperger's?

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Did you read the diagnostic criterea for AS? Go to Aspergers.com and it has it, as well as symptoms and stuff.

OCD could be a co-morbid, but it is not part of AS. Many aspies are messy and don't mind messiness. Do you take something for your OCD? If you do, does it lessen your symptoms?

Wolfpup, it is really the Theory of Mind stuff that defines AS. Do you understand how your behavior creates certain thoughts in other people and then can you predict a range of behaviors of the other person by their state of mind? It is not really knowing their state of mind so much, but knowing how you influence their state of mind and they influence yours.

Do you understand how your behavior creates certain thoughts in other people

and then can you predict a range of behaviors of the other person by their state of mind?

Quote: Sophist
LIST OF COMMON SYMPTOMOLOGY FOR AUTISTIC SPECTRUM DISORDERS:


GABA-related Issues:

1.OCD-like tendencies These symptoms are on a spectrum of their own within ASDs. They can include full-blown OCD issues or milder, undiagnosable symptoms such as preference for routine, difficulty with change, repetitive thought processes, and compulsions which may fall short of the full OCD criteria.

2. Anxiety issues The anxiety can vary wildly from sudden panic attacks to more specific phobias. Social Phobia is a common comorbid, or even a sub-diagnosable social uneasiness. Anxiety can also often focus around the OCD-like issues and involve compulsions and/or obsessive and repetitive thoughts.

3. Obsessions Despite that the DSM and many books imply an autistic person is usually only obsessed with one thing at a given time, the focus should be on the level of the obsession (no matter its duration, what is the quality of its intensity?) and/or whether it us an unusual interest; not the number of obsessions. Also, the duration can be longstanding (years) or even as brief as a single afternoon. The focus should instead be on the intensity and/or abnormality of the obsession, itself, and not the number or duration. ADHD symptoms can often make obsessional interests last shorter than “stereotypical”.

4. Self-stimulatory behaviors In some autistic individuals, this symptom is very extreme; in others, it may be subtle or even solely done in private. Stimulatory behaviors are common to all humans; however, autistics tend to stim more frequently and perhaps may or may not inhibit their stimulatory behavior simply due to social convention. Stimulatory behaviors (or rather an increase in these behaviors) is often triggered by a non-homeostatic emotional state (i.e., anxiety or excitement). However, stimming can also be a sensory-exploration and not simply a method of anxious calming.

5. Hyper- and Hypo-sensory issues These can involve any of the senses: sight, sound, touch, taste, smell, vestibular system (balance), proprioception (joint awareness; limb awareness), exteroception (skin awareness), and interoception (awareness of the inner body: organs such as stomach, bladder, bowel movements, etc.). Vestibular abnormalities, proprioception, exteroception, and interoception all seems to be fairly constant in abnormal functioning (when there is a deficit); however, the level of sensitivity of the five main senses can many times be contingent upon anxiety levels. Many autistics experience a consistent abnormality in several of these senses, but level of severity (i.e., an increase in discomfort) can be effected by anxiety levels.


Body Issues:

6. Coordination, balance, and body awareness Each of these areas can be effected. As stated above, issues in these areas are usually constant in nature and not quite as vulnerable to shifts in GABA functioning.


Cognitive Functioning:

7. Executive Dysfunction Autistics can have varying levels and combinations of EDF. Most have issues with multitasking even to the point that looking and listening can be a difficult task. Social multitasking can be an issue. Common ADHD symptoms are most often noted if not full-blown ADHD. Within this, attentional problems, organization, multitasking, and goal-oriented planning and carrying out of these plans can all be effected. Although each autistic will show varying levels of severity.

8. Language For some autistics, language can be impaired as severely as a complete inability to communicate verbally (either due to a larger language issue or just verbal motor apraxia). For others, language can be less noticeably affected. Prosody may be effected. Some autistics may exhibit monotonic speech, others may prefer to do voices, others still may have an unusual way with words. But this does not discount autistics who, through years of learning, have also come to blend fairly well, language-wise, into the world.

9. Social Issues This is the symptom which is often most obvious to onlookers or during interaction and the reason Autistic Spectrum Disorders have mistakenly been called “social disorders”. Issues in this area can range from very severe to very mild. Most autistics have difficulty in this area, although, as just stated, these difficulties can be very subtle in some and difficulty in this area is not a condemnation to lifelong solitude (many autistic people have friends, are married and have children). As a generalization, males tend to be more seriously effected in this area, especially those with Aspergers or High-Functioning Autism-- although that is not a steadfast rule to diagnose by.

10. Sleep Disturbances Many autistics have issues with sleep. Often it is a difficulty with sleep (i.e., getting to sleep) or staying asleep. This possibly has to do with some of the common serotonin dysfunction in ASDs. Sometimes it can be an OCD-like issue regarding repetitive thoughts and the inability to “wind down”.

11. Talent areas Many autistics seem to have splinter skills, talents, even prodigious talent areas. The areas most noted are: music, art, mathematics, languages, memory, visuo-spatial skills, writing, and analysis of information. Though this list is by no means exhaustive.


Medical Issues:

12. Autoimmune dysfunction More recent research supports the notion that a portion of ASDs may involve an autoimmune component. These immune components can include IgA Deficiency, IgG or IgM Deficiencies, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Hypothyroidism, gastrointestinal issues such as Celiac Disease, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, nondescript gluten allergies, casein allergy, lactose allergy, other sinus-related allergies, and asthma. As further research is performed, other related issues may continue to arise.


Common Comorbids:

13. Common comorbid conditions: ADHD/ADD, OCD, Depression, Central Auditory Processing Disorder, Learning Disabilities including Nonverbal Learning Disorder, Dyslexia and other disorders of written or verbal expression, Tourette's and other Tic Disorders, Bipolar Disorder, Psychosis (most often noted in the teenage or early adult years), Schizophrenia, Epilepsies, various apraxias, Prosopagnosia and other perceptual disorders (e.g., depth perception), various synaesthesias, and a host of others. For some, addictions can also be an issue.


Family Genetics:

14. Family genetics In most ASDs, it seems many genes are involved; therefore, it is likely these characteristics did not arise out of the blue. Like any other phenotypic expression, most often if a child exhibits some characteristic, members within his or her family will express similar characteristics. A “Broader Autistic Phenotype” can often be seen within these families (i.e., Shadow Syndromes). Although in females these expressions may be subtler due to a possible genetic suppression that female-sex-specific genetics may wield, so in looking back on the family the possibility of this sex-specific suppression needs to be kept in mind.

I don't know. ARGH! I'm thinking this through forwards and backwards, and I'm not even sure what this means exactly.

Obviously I have this one, since I was diagnosed with OCD back in the early '90s. Plus I hate change (don't like changes in schedules, I'm a bit freaked out that we're going to rearrange the office at work tomorrow (when I first found out about that a few months ago I actually though my only choice would be to kill myself because I couldn't handle it, but thankfully I've calmed down a bit since then ), etc.-I like knowing what's going to happen ahead of time in a given situation.)



Yup. I definitely have anxiety. Generally kind of freaked out a bit, and sometimes it'll flare up worse for (sometimes) no real reason. I think I have social phobia too. At least I certainly hate groups of people.



I've never been sure what counts as an "obsession". I'd say I don't have them, but I could be wrong. I follow certain types of news real closely, particularly computer hardware, and like to know at least the general design of any major new CPUs and GPUs, etc. I sometimes get sucked into Wikipedia, looking up something interesting (often about animal intelligence which I'm fascinated by, or something else) and am up until 3am doing that. But I don't know that any of that would fit an "obsession", it's just stuff I do.



As mentioned earlier, I don't know about these either. I do often fiddle with something or bounce my leg or something, but I don't think that would count.



I've never been sure about these either. I'll throw some stuff out, but I don't know that any of this would fall in that category. I do get really bothered by chemical-y smells (like most perfumes, etc.). And I hate the "feel" and smell of groups of people around me-especially when they're eating.
I've seen some sites say "notices sounds others can't hear" or something like that. I do, usually high pitched sounds like what a CRT TV or my cell phone charger sounds like (can't sleep with either in the same room), and I can't concentrate (or fall asleep, or read) with noise like music or voices (either in real life or on TV), as my brain keeps focusing in on it.



I'm not like Super Athlete or anything, and occasionally I feel a bit "stumbly" when I sometimes feel "out of it", but mostly I think I'm average in this regard.




I think I'm worse than average at stopping one thing and starting another. Slow to figure out what I was doing before and get back into it. I have to list out any "to do" items or things like that or I won't remember them (I've used a Palm since '99, which I always knew I needed!) While I think I'm worse than average on all that, I don't know that it's outside any kind of "normal" range or not.



I've always been normal, aside from if I'm distracted and haven't "switched out" of what I was doing when someone at work asks me something, I'll kind of stumble around what I'm trying to say and not make sense for a short bit until I've "switched over" to talking and thinking about what they're saying.



OOOOOOh yeah do I have this. I don't know how to deal with social situations unless I know exactly what's expected of me and what I'm supposed to say (like at work). If I don't know, then it's extremely stressful. I avoid social situations all I can, which means I really have no real-life friends



Yeah, sounds like me exactly. My brain won't shut off most nights unless I'm SUPER tired. Also sometimes stuff will pop in my head with ways I should have said things differently during the day.



Maybe. I was always thought of as being really intelligent growing up. I'm good with computer stuff (though more just in regards to building/repairing them at the moment). I don't know...

I would suggest Autism and Asperger's Syndrome by Uta Frith. A 5 year old theroy of mind would look like this:

Sally had a basket. Anne had a box. Sally took her marble and put it in her basket and went out to play. Anne took Sally's marble out of Sally's basket and put it in her box. Sally comes in to get her marble. Where will she look?

An NT 5 year old would say that Sally would look in her basket because Sally believes the marble to be there. A 5 year old with AS will say that Sally will look in Anne's box because that is where the marble really is. The NT child assumes Sally's state of mind to answer the question.

Does this make it any clearer?

can you reitterate that above ToM example?