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RedMage
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24 Apr 2007, 11:49 pm

Are more Aspies/Auties Atheist or religious? I'm Atheist, but I don't like telling people.



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24 Apr 2007, 11:51 pm

Atheist, looking into Solipsism.



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24 Apr 2007, 11:54 pm

Starbuline wrote:
Atheist, looking into Solipsism.


What's Solipsism?



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24 Apr 2007, 11:58 pm

Atheist. But I'm a humanist as well. I believe in right and wrong, and that there is such a thing as good, and you can find it in other people. The beauty of that, and the beauty of nature, is more divine than anything I've ever read in a religious text.



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24 Apr 2007, 11:59 pm

I believe in God, but I'm not religious as my parents and grandparents.

At this moment I don't belong to any religion, it suposed I'll follow my parents' steps, but I think I can't belong to their religion because I don't follow the rules correctly. . . well, it's a long story that maybe someday I'll have to tell you . . .



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25 Apr 2007, 12:04 am

I believe in science and Drawin's theory of evolution.



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25 Apr 2007, 12:05 am

martin_nyc wrote:
Atheist. But I'm a humanist as well. I believe in right and wrong, and that there is such a thing as good, and you can find it in other people. The beauty of that, and the beauty of nature, is more divine than anything I've ever read in a religious text.


Atheism and humanism are not mutually exclusive...I personally am very much in favor of secular humanism, which is a clearly atheistic school of thought. Atheism doesn't argue a lack of right/wrong, good/bad divisions...it is simply the lack of belief in a god.



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25 Apr 2007, 12:06 am

foxman wrote:
martin_nyc wrote:
Atheist. But I'm a humanist as well. I believe in right and wrong, and that there is such a thing as good, and you can find it in other people. The beauty of that, and the beauty of nature, is more divine than anything I've ever read in a religious text.


Atheism and humanism are not mutually exclusive...I personally am very much in favor of secular humanism, which is a clearly atheistic school of thought. Atheism doesn't argue a lack of right/wrong, good/bad divisions...it is simply the lack of belief in a god.


Agreed. =) I suppose I overstated the obvious.



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25 Apr 2007, 12:31 am

Isn't atheism a relegion, being sure there is no God is a relegion belief.


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25 Apr 2007, 12:34 am

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Isn't atheism a relegion, being sure there is no God is a relegion belief.


I disagree. You might as well say that pragmatism is a religion. I'll accept that it might be an ideology...but even that seems like a stretch. It basically just means that you don't think there's a higher power.



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25 Apr 2007, 12:39 am

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Isn't atheism a relegion, being sure there is no God is a relegion belief.


No. Lack of belief does not qualify as "belief."

Also, I personally am not sure that there is no god. I am just not sure there is one. The term "atheism" only requires a lack of belief, not belief in the opposite. In any logical or scientific debate, burden of proof lies with the affirming arguement. As soon as someone can PROVE to me that a god exists, I will be glad to change my viewpoint.



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25 Apr 2007, 12:40 am

I can't see God, and therefore I believe there isn't one.



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25 Apr 2007, 12:47 am

RedMage wrote:
I can't see God, and therefore I believe there isn't one.


You can't see, for example, the wind, and that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


I think this topic must be on the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum



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25 Apr 2007, 12:48 am

*sigh* I meant I have no faith to believe in God.



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25 Apr 2007, 12:49 am

From an Episcopalian family...been agnostic for as long as I can remember...began converting to Judaism earlier this year but I'm just not religious. I couldn't get into all the god-worship (etc). I believe in one god and I hold all the same Jewish beliefs so I still consider myself Jewish (even though I haven't undergone formal conversion and probably never will), but I don't feel spiritual about my beliefs...I just accept them as my own facts, so it's hard to be reverent about something that you just take as true (like worshipping Ireland if you happen to be Irish).



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25 Apr 2007, 1:26 am

foxman wrote:
Endersdragon wrote:
Isn't atheism a relegion, being sure there is no God is a relegion belief.


No. Lack of belief does not qualify as "belief."

Also, I personally am not sure that there is no god. I am just not sure there is one. The term "atheism" only requires a lack of belief, not belief in the opposite. In any logical or scientific debate, burden of proof lies with the affirming arguement. As soon as someone can PROVE to me that a god exists, I will be glad to change my viewpoint.


a·the·ism (th-zm) KEY

NOUN:


1 Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
2 The doctrine that there is no God or gods. (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/di ... ry/atheism)


Just by the defination, well all besides the possibility of the disbelief part, suggests that it is indeed a relegion. Perhaps if you don't believe that there is no God it would be more correct to say you don't have a clue instead of calling yourself an atheist as you are bending the defination of atheism.

Anyway if you need proof I suggest you read Fahreinheit 451 (or reread it) and remember what Ben Franklins job is in it. You can't prove anything in this world.


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