Things I don't get about bullying

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Ok some forms of bullying ARE down to things like wanting the victim to feel upset. But there are some forms of bullying where the bullies are so intense, and it goes on for so long, that the bullies don't have any idea that all this bullying could be making the victim wanting to commit suicide, or building up other negative thoughts and emotions. I mean, any bully doesn't give two damns about the victim's feelings, and if they could really put themselves in the victim's shoes, they would realize that bullying does more damage than they think. Also bullying is selfish. They are bullying a victim for their own entertainment. Some bullies find a person's personal misfortunes funny, for example making fun of a woman who has gone bald due to fighting cancer. I just don't see the empathy in that. I mean, do the people making fun of a cancer fighter's baldness want the woman to feel insecure, or are they just so wrapped up in their mean judgement that they just want their laugh and too oblivious to even think of what that person is going through?

Also, why do some people pick on others just to make themselves feel better about themselves? Do they want to be a mean person? Do they want to be an a***hole? Do they want to be at risk of being beaten up by the victim's friends/family? I'm socially weak, but instead of picking on others weaker, I want to make them feel good about themselves by being friendly or helping them out, and then that makes me feel good about myself. If I was to make a person's life hell just because of my insecurities, I would feel so ashamed of myself. I like to make others who struggle feel accepted.

And one more thing, not all bullies get karma.

The most extreme kind of bullies do want their victims to kill themselves, or they even want to murder their victim. Most bullies think it's a game, but there are bullies who do realize what they're doing and who are ready to the most extreme things. Even very young bullies. They have true hateful urges.

That describes bullies in a nutshell. That's also not normal behaviour. Those people are sociopaths. That's the type of bully that Hitler was.

I'm a Jain. We believe everyone has karma. And, yes, all the bullies' souls are extremely tainted with it. Our belief is that they will pay, some kind of way, for all that bad karma, whether it's losing a loved one to cancer or getting a disease or losing their job and home or dying a fiery death in a car crash.

Much of this behaviour comes from psychological-contamination of a mind-controlling phenomenon.

When people are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, for example, they can be seen to behave very differently than what would be considered normal. Few people, how-ever, are aware that this disruptive-behaviour phenomenon is not limited to just drugs or alcohol, but also has other equivalents even at the molecular-level of contamination/intoxication. The greater the volume of the contamination the more callous the behaviour/mentality.

The real enemy is the mind-controlling psycho-particle contaminant phenomenon that directs their thoughts and controls their emotions into destructive-behaviour. I would treat it like a form of A.I. that has taken over their mental-faculties, similarly to how one might approach a case of spirit-possession, and "telepathically" try to reason with those particle-clusters into calming down, and not to make use of these humans into bullying others.

Yes they do eventually as does everybody. You just do not see/recognise it and the experience of existence is not limited to a physical human-body. I can assure you that death from a physical-body is not the end of one's ability to experience suffering. For those who demand proof of my claims, I will not be giving any, but I will say that I've done my homework (i.e.: thoroughly studying what is known from both sides of opposing viewpoints in order to remove any beams out of my own eye before trying to remove the speck of dust out of the eye of another and I would hope that evidence-minded individuals would exercise the same due diligence), and will make an additional "grandiose" claim that I am amongst one of this world's prophets/messengers who exists to assist in correcting the numerous mistakes and false-beliefs of humanity. The primary error of humans is the belief that various rituals turn criminal-activities into non-crimes (legislation, uniforms, wages, orders, authorisations, commands, duties, honour, etc., such that thievery is "legalised" in the minds of mortals who impound another's vehicle, murder is condoned through capital-punishment and war-mongering, rape is turned into a "sport" when militaries barbarically invade the lands of other cultures, kidnapping is called apprehension, the holding of hostages is referred to as being jailed, and plenty of other backwards, upside-down, and inside-out thinking).

Joe90, nice post. Most bullies are sadly very narcissistic/sociopathic and you can't reason with them.

Redrobin, I do not believe in a karma like that. In my view a human being doesn't live, suffer and die as a another man's payback. Children don't suffer and get severely ill, because they did evil nor they suffer just for the sake of their parents sins. Individuals are not just mere vessels of revenge in a play centered around the main characters we see ourselves as.

But I believe though that a natural karma of sorts exists in the sense that the more evil you plant into the world, the more likely not only the ones you want to hurt, but also the ones you love, will have their share of it.

For example if you don't intervene when you see someone being hurt and harassed, you are on your part making such behavior in the world accepted and tolerated. Only the next time it's not a stranger getting hurt, but your own daughter or son and just like you, other people will not help. That is the natural karma as I see it.

I also agree with that definition.

There are a few people, however, who actively bully other people while loudly proclaiming themselves as victims. I don't know what you would call that kind of person, but I've known a few of them.

I would call them dangerous, anyway. I know quite a few, and those are the worst of all.

If you play the Adolf Hitler card, well I know that Adolf Hitler was a Meth Addict so he was often under the influence which would mean according to Ban-Dodger that he's Innocent.. Also Hitler murdered jews because people don't like jews, History wise, fore through out history. The reason everyone blames Hitler is because they winners write history. Though his view of the world wasn't right at all, but still he twisted the world to his view. Most people do this he just done it on a larger scale.

It's just so irksome to think that bullies have empathy. And they say Aspies lack empathy.

Bullies IMHO don't necessarily have low self esteem. Though that used to be considered in the equation.
Some have an enlarged sense of self and entitlement.

I have worked with them from middle school to maximum security prisons.

Izzy Kalman has the opposite approach to most school's solution.

I don't know about clinical labels for people like that but I think there would be more than one depending on why they're acting that way.

Some people must do it on purpose to manipulate the people they're bullying or anybody who witnesses/hears about what's happening (the whole "gaslighting" thing).

But there are people who bully/abuse others and honestly believe they're being victimized by the people they're hurting and that their bullying/abusive behavior is acceptable -- those people have cognitive and/or psychological issues distorting their perceptions of reality and getting in the way of them seeing any perspective other than their own.

Bullying has been an issue fur decades with little results.

My first bully?
My brother.
(We are now good friends.
That started after our parents died, but I digress)

Any solutions ???or
Ideas?

This has happened to me before. Are there any good solutions to deal with a situation like that?

Many bullies think they can get away with bullying others because that they feel tormenting others is an entitlement and/or believe that bullying others is a normal behavior that can help bullies prepare for adulthood.

{That's just my opinion.}

People bully for lots of reasons. Kids bully because they don't know any better so the behavior they are doing they may not even realize it's wrong or that it's hurting someone but lot of parents argue about labeling a young child as a bully. Kids may bully because they are abused at home so they go to school and take it out on others to make themselves feel better. Kids may bully because of low self esteem and insecurity so they have to make others feel bad to make themselves feel better. Kids may bully to fit in and some may bully due to peer pressure and also because they don't want to get bullied themselves. Some may bully because they are bullied themselves so they do it to make themselves feel better or to fit in to end the bullying. And also lots of kids tease but when does it become bullying? I would say when it continues on and on when the kid has already told them to stop and to leave them alone and when they are specifically targeting someone. I don't buy into the kids will be kids crap because that is just a cop out, you're the adult so you're supposed to do something about it.

As for adults, insecurity, low self esteem, some are sociopaths, narcissists and just jerks in general. I would say my ex boyfriend was a bully because he had to put other people down, put me down, be controlling, and he was overly jealous no doubt and he had low self esteem no doubt and didn't like himself no doubt so he had to take it out on others. He mostly acted like a school bully except this was an adult, not a child. But yeah he is an adult so he is responsible while for a child it's the adults who are responsible and to give that kid counseling to fix whatever his issue is so he won't be a bully.


And another reason why a person would bully, their views are distorted or clouded due to trauma and someone who tends to misread social situations and people intentions may unintentionally be a bully. In their view they think they are being picked on and harassed so they defend themselves while to everyone else those kids were just innocent and did a innocent tease or did something innocent and the kid over reacted and picked a fight with them. Guess who gets into trouble?

And some people have mental issues so it also distorts their views so they may believe they are being bullied or insulted when they are not so they react to it so they end up being a bully.