Why do NTs accuse us of Having a Lack of Empathy?

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13 Jan 2008, 2:20 am

Theyare usually the ones who demean others for having even slight neurological differences. Why are they called "compassionate" and empathetic when they only believe that only a certain type of person is worthy of life? They are like herd animals; anyone who speaks with his true mind and heart is seen as a threat to this clannish group. NTs never fight using fair and just methods; it's always 2 or more against one. You want to know why? That reason is fear. They feel they are threatened when the status quo is challenged by an outsider with no interest in following their arbitrary clannish rules. If they truly didn't fear us and merely hated us, they wouldn't team up on one person.



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13 Jan 2008, 2:51 am

they don't fear us so much, and they probably really can't help how they are, either.

I mean, if we can't help how WE are, how can they help how THEY are?

so don't take it personal, when you remember it's not your personality they are rejecting, it is usually because our moral requirements are deal breakers for them.


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13 Jan 2008, 3:18 am

Because the sirens in their heads go off, when we mention that we have AS, and from that point on, they presume that we lack empathy, for others, when they're the ones who lack empathy, for us.


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13 Jan 2008, 3:24 am

purplesky wrote:
Why do NTs accuse us of Having a Lack of Empathy?


Because we do.



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13 Jan 2008, 4:33 am

Sure in some cases, I don't feel much to empathize. But we do have empathy, we just don't show it in ways NTs consider empathy, and if we don't show it they automatically assume we don't have it. Also we probably don't have as much empathy towards things NTs generally have empathy for.



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13 Jan 2008, 4:44 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Because we do.


1) Yes, to a certain extent. Much of the NT world seems silly and pointless to us, and we (or at least I) have little talent at faking concern.

2) Often, we are unaware that there is something for which we should feel empathy. So... we would, but we don't.

3) Then there's the fact that NTs have as much trouble-- probably more-- reading us than we do them. Remember that there was a serious question for a while as to whether we were capable of loving someone... because they weren't seeing evidence of it.


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13 Jan 2008, 6:10 am

Daniel and Catalyist make a good point.


Although I'm undiagnosed, my empathy level is buried to the ground, cemented, and poured holy water over. This does not mean I will not help a person, but I'm not emotionally attached. I can't feel what that person has felt so how can I empathize? If I did it would be fake.


As a child I used to get teary-eyed when others cried, but that didn't mean I felt anything. I don't even know why i did at times, considering I wasn't even sad. Now, nothing changes my facial expression. I read and hear horrible news and think "That is the world we live in." A sense of depression enters me, but what can I do about it?


I for some reason tend to feel more empathic to non-humans than to humans. I feel like I can understand them more. Still, I do feel a sense of attachment to some very few people, yet I can't empathize with them or project that in any meaningful way other than just being there with the person. For me, it is the little things that I do, but many would rather it be a blatant offering. I just can't. I've never been able to.


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13 Jan 2008, 6:12 am

Danielismyname wrote:
purplesky wrote:
Why do NTs accuse us of Having a Lack of Empathy?


Because we do.


To an extent. I find it very hard to feel empathy, for a society woman, who's crying over a broken nail.


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13 Jan 2008, 6:29 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
purplesky wrote:
Why do NTs accuse us of Having a Lack of Empathy?


Because we do.


To an extent. I find it very hard to feel empathy, for a society woman, who's crying over a broken nail.


Now come on. Those women really care for their nails, and we should share in their sorrow. :lol:


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13 Jan 2008, 8:24 am

What's an NT?


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13 Jan 2008, 8:50 am

"Why do nts accuse of of not having empathy?"

Hi. You know sometimes people just tell lies to make themselves look like you are the problem. If they can make you the problem then to them and anyone viewing them tthey become free of guilt in the percieved way. Maybe they are embarrassed for having been wrong.

Thats not what I meant to say though.
*A person who is unable to see the process of your empathy, can not think that you have it.


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13 Jan 2008, 12:06 pm

Questionable science involving the notion that autistics lack "theory of mind" became ingrained into the public imagination.


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13 Jan 2008, 2:58 pm

I suppose they call our not herd-like behavior having no empathy. We don't automatically know what we have to do to fit in, so they think it's because we don't "feel" others. I feel others' pain, what I can't grasp is the non-verbal hints.


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13 Jan 2008, 3:33 pm

purplesky wrote:
Theyare usually the ones who demean others for having even slight neurological differences. Why are they called "compassionate" and empathetic when they only believe that only a certain type of person is worthy of life? They are like herd animals; anyone who speaks with his true mind and heart is seen as a threat to this clannish group. NTs never fight using fair and just methods; it's always 2 or more against one. You want to know why? That reason is fear. They feel they are threatened when the status quo is challenged by an outsider with no interest in following their arbitrary clannish rules. If they truly didn't fear us and merely hated us, they wouldn't team up on one person.


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13 Jan 2008, 3:59 pm

Because we show it differently or we don't show it so they assume we don't have it. We don't know how to react to how people are feeling so they assume we don't care.



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13 Jan 2008, 5:12 pm

quick answer - misconception.