Disabled Child: You can do it! Adult: You can't do anything!

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Angnix
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10 Jun 2016, 10:46 am

Having severe meltdowns and other symptoms as a child and adult, the attitudes of mental health workers and others really changed, at least for me...

As a child I was encouraged, the school even bought me books and games for my level, despite meltdowns they convinced me I could do anything and encouraged me to go to college.

As an adult... I'm being told I need to stay on ssi, get into rent reduced housing, and they will find me a part-time, minimum wage job, even though I have a college degree. I'm applying to jobs I want and finding no support from psych workers or anyone else if I get the job.

What's up with this? I had one instance of depression and was encouraged to get on ssi and now I seem stuck there forever and my friends, relatives, mental health professionals don't care, only my husband.


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10 Jun 2016, 6:54 pm

I agree. They shouldn't paint a hopeless picture.

If you're on SSI, I believe you can make use of the "Ticket to Work" program. This provides, I believe, a safety net should you have trouble keeping your job.

I would continue to go for the job of my choice. Forget those idiots who want you to work part-time at McDonald's or something.



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10 Jun 2016, 7:53 pm

Go for your dreams, Angnix!



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10 Jun 2016, 9:10 pm

The only people I know that get work assistance are intellectually disabled people, and they do shelter workshop jobs.

If you want a market place job at a competitive wage, that's up to you to make the magic happen.

The issue is you have a college degree. The powers that be figure if you managed to survive around humans, write exams and maneuver the system, you have enough skills to deal. Didn't say well. Just deal.

Living in Michigan, Voc Rehab is horrible to people with college degrees. They get down right nasty when you balk at a job. My friend was in tears when the case worker told her to buck the hell up and deal. She didn't want a part time factory job as her college degree is in accounting. Sort of like, "Oh, your too good for that? Work is work." Then it gets marked down you are refusing to work. If your major depression wasn't bad before, it will be worse after dealing with those fools at Michigan Works.

If you don't have a degree, they help you more in skills training and going to school.

So yeah...no one will be holding your handing finding you work that you'd like to do. The only time that happens is when a well off parent pays a life coach to help guide the child through a job that a family friend gave them. The Poors are s**t out of luck.



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10 Jun 2016, 9:18 pm

I think there are a lot of people in the "helping" professions who automatically infantilize their "clients" as a way to inflate their own sense of status and self-worth. They want to keep you dependent, because if you become independent -- well, you wouldn't need them anymore, and we can't have that. (If you become independent then how could they justify increasing their budget?)


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10 Jun 2016, 10:09 pm

But Angnix, don't you have some issues other than just autism? Some thought disorder or bipolar, something like that? My memory is defective, so apologies if I have misstated.

Your success in getting and holding a job is not tied specifically to a diagnosis, but to how well you can function in "competitive" employment. If you can't function very well, that is no source of shame. Maybe your total impairments are too great.

It seems you are feeling you get no assistance at employment. My suggestion is to accept your status on SSI and use some time to become stronger. Sometimes people develop late, and it's not unheard of to return to employment after a period on SSI.

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11 Jun 2016, 6:23 am

Angnix wrote:
... What's up with this? ...
Adults with disabilities are expected to help themselves, or to be "put away" somewhere. The 'magic' cut-off age seems to be around 14 (younger for boys, older for girls). Before then, they seem to inspire compassion in others. After then, they seem to inspire indifference or contempt.

This is also the age when the adoption rate for parentless children seems to sharply drop off.



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11 Jun 2016, 1:43 pm

I'm bipolar, but I'm functioning well. Also it's an issue of being bored... I don't have much to fill my time or the money to do anything. Michigan rehab last time I delt with them, wanted me to work in the Goodwill factory... that pay far less than minimum wage and get away with it. Right now my caseworker says part time minimum wage work... oh, and I can't own a car even if I work because they are too expensive... yeah, but I have a licence and I used to own cars and my mechanic uncle used to work on them for free....


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11 Jun 2016, 1:44 pm

It got double posted somehow


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11 Jun 2016, 3:26 pm

Angnix wrote:
I'm bipolar, but I'm functioning well. Also it's an issue of being bored... I don't have much to fill my time or the money to do anything. Michigan rehab last time I delt with them, wanted me to work in the Goodwill factory... that pay far less than minimum wage and get away with it. Right now my caseworker says part time minimum wage work... oh, and I can't own a car even if I work because they are too expensive... yeah, but I have a licence and I used to own cars and my mechanic uncle used to work on them for free....

Have you expressed to the rehab people that you don't feel that's a suitable job for your abilities? And, who says you can't own a car? If you are on SSI, you can own a car; my daughter is and does.


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11 Jun 2016, 3:44 pm

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I'm bipolar, but I'm functioning well. Also it's an issue of being bored... I don't have much to fill my time or the money to do anything. Michigan rehab last time I delt with them, wanted me to work in the Goodwill factory... that pay far less than minimum wage and get away with it. Right now my caseworker says part time minimum wage work... oh, and I can't own a car even if I work because they are too expensive... yeah, but I have a licence and I used to own cars and my mechanic uncle used to work on them for free.... :!:

Have you expressed to the rehab people that you don't feel that's a suitable job for your abilities? And, who says you can't own a car? If you are on SSI, you can own a car; my daughter is and does.


I pay almost all our money to rent... nobody will let us live anywhere free or low cost. Rent based on income housing has a long list. We found out because of rules about foreigners my husband can't get it at all and he can't work so I'm right now trying to support two people on 733, when over 500 is going for rent, then we pay phone and lots of bus fare. :?:


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11 Jun 2016, 5:10 pm

Oh, that's rough. I hope things get better soon for you.


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11 Jun 2016, 9:58 pm

I'm questioning whether you have a case worker or govt employee, referring you for subsidized services, both as a child and an adult. That might just be their job, but they may get a commission, too -- completely irrespective of their opinions about your personal abilities. They could just as well try to help anyone who walks through the door.



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12 Jun 2016, 8:52 am

friedmacguffins wrote:
I'm questioning whether you have a case worker or govt employee, referring you for subsidized services, both as a child and an adult. That might just be their job, but they may get a commission, too -- completely irrespective of their opinions about your personal abilities. They could just as well try to help anyone who walks through the door.


Could be the county too... where I used to live a couple of counties over, mich. Rehab. was trying to get me a job at the zoo and a car to get there, but I declined the help because I got another job, but I did not end up suitable for that one. Now where I used to live in that county won't take me back.

My caseworker is mental health, I've had bad experiences with them, especially my last caseworker, they are good at exploiting people.


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12 Jun 2016, 11:43 am

@BeaA

In a perfect world, Rehab services would not place a person with a college degree at Goodwill. The job market is so bad in Michigan, you have NTs with advance degrees trying to claw their way into Starbucks. The fact you have a degree means nothing to them.

Mass transit is a joke here, even in Metro Detroit, so you have that added hassle.

Section 8 is given to families with kids first. So OP will be waiting a looooong time until some turns up.

About the county telling OP to pound sand. Yeah...they do that. Community mental health does the same thing in my area. You refuse their help once (like the zoo job with possible car), you'll never get that offer again. The case loads are huge, and you more or less had your shot.

My friend did manage to play the game with CMH, and got a job as a dishwasher which morphed into her doing the restaurant's book keeping. That took 2 years.



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12 Jun 2016, 12:50 pm

Most of the jobs that seem good for me are out of state. What I wanted was relocation help if I got one of these jobs, but my caseworker, and some of my family and friends say I can't do it. They and my husband have this idea we can get into subsidized/section 8 housing and our money problems would be gone. Don't they realize we would live much better if I got a job?


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