Some autistic traits not part of autism?

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Brandon30
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14 Jul 2016, 3:49 pm

Do you think some of the problems autistic people have are environmental created and not genetic ? For example when I was a child I was told I was horrible at math but told I needed to do for school this created a vast amount of unneeded anxiety which inhibited learning. I find math simple now it was just the fact I was in a public school lol but for the longest time I thought I couldn't do math and would mentally freeze up of someone put a math problem in front of me. I thought I had trouble with because I was being told I would have trouble with it. Another example I frequently see "autistic individuals can't thinking abstractly" however I'm able to think abstractly and I notice there are plenty of autistic individual that think abstractly also. It's not uncommon for licensed health professional to not entirely lnow what they are taking about they are generally just regurgitating information they read out of books which are sometimes obsolete. I here of some giving misinformation to clients that are Austic. So do you think that some of the are some of the problems associated with autism socially created, for example the original medical definition of what autism was basically comparing them to socio paths from my understanding and know it's commonly understand that is completely wrong, do you think there are false assumptions about ausitism that are commonly held by some health professions that are unintentionally creating problems in austisic children because of the lack of understandings,then labeling the problem part of ausitism for example austtic children are commonly said to lack imagination so they create highly structured environment into "teach" them to play "normal" but it's so highly structured that it would inhibit the development of an imagination. Do you think some autistic people that cant think abstract not because of a native neurological reason but because they were brought up being told they can't, so it's simply not developed or they simply think they can't. The reason I'm asking is because temple grandin says she can't think abstractly but describes her thinking as a search engine were she types in words and concrete imagines she thinks in is pulled up. For example she takes the abstract concept of a car and uses that to pull up multiple imagines of different concrete examples of cars wouldn't that require a sub conscious understaning of an abstraction? I can think in abstracts but I wouldn't consider myself as someone that thinks verbally. An abstraction is a concept without phisical manifestion like a generalization a car =anything that as a steering wheel an engine and 4 wheels. Wouldn't at least a sub conscious understanding of a generalization be required to pull up multiple images of seperate concrete concepts that belong to the same abstract grouping? What do you think?



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14 Jul 2016, 7:00 pm

Either you are autistic or you are not. I most wholeheartidly agree that ones environment has large effect on how well one literally functions in society. An autism unfrendly environment can make autistic traits a lot more severe and create co morbid mental illness.


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14 Jul 2016, 10:49 pm

First of all you should learn to break up that horrible wall of text of yours into paragraphs so they become readable. Writing line after line without letting the readers eyes rest is highly inadvisable and can cause the reader to lose track of where he/she was. The rule is: One paragraph, one thought.

Only reason why i read it is because i have trouble sleeping right now and i had no prescription for sleeping pills when i went to the apothecary today, if that wasn't the case, i would not have bothered.


Secondly:

You live, you grow.

Only thing i can say is, do not lock autistic children into a bubble, if you do that and keep them away from society instead of letting them make mistakes and learn as the rest of humanity, they will have a ZERO chance of ever living independently or holding down a job. I'm able to do that because i've never been told what i couldn't do. (We are not idiots, even though some people writing in the PPR forum would have you believe otherwise).

Temple Grandin speaks for herself, some people can identify with her experiences, some others cannot.

I've written this many times but: "Everyones experience with Autism is different, the only thing we have in common are the diagnostic criterias. The rest is just you and your personality".

And yes, some doctors probably read a book 15 years ago on psychiatry and never updated their knowledge. They shouldn't be practising medicine.


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15 Jul 2016, 6:52 am

Could you please add paragraphs to your posts? I find long posts without any paragraphs too hard to concentrate on and so don't read them. Thank you! :)


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