Are most Aspies designed not to breed?

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BrainPower101
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16 Jul 2016, 6:30 pm

Most of us are weak nerdy and unfit geeks with poor social skills.

There are a few people that really believe our type are not meant to breed to control overpopulation, that's why there are so many gay or asexual Aspies.



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16 Jul 2016, 10:33 pm

Well, we certainly are less likely to reproduce then most people but I wouldn't say that we are "meant" or "designed" to not reproduce because that implies that it's the intention of some higher power and that we were designed, and I'm an agnostic atheist. I for one have nothing unusual going on with my sexuality so I fully intend on attempting to not let natural selection get the better of me. If we are intended or designed to not reproduce then whoever is allegedly doing the intending and designing is doing a pretty terrible job because many aspies get married and start families.


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17 Jul 2016, 12:53 am

That is a very ableist assumption.



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17 Jul 2016, 4:10 am

I have children and have bred quite efficiently! Assuming that AS people are poor breeders because of human overpopulation simply sounds a ridiculous idea to me.



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17 Jul 2016, 4:28 am

I donated sperm and according to the sperm bank, it has been used already on at least three occasions. My seed seemed to be desirable despite me not disclosing my HFA.



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17 Jul 2016, 4:35 am

The structure of a society effect such matters of relationships and reproduction. In some forms of society such things are not a significant issue.



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17 Jul 2016, 6:48 am

Why do we get these crappy, ridiculous threads?

Many Aspies DO breed, and are successful parents.

So what if they are "odd?" They have some attributes "NT's" don't have

For anybody telling you that autistic people are "defective" in some way...IT'S A BUNCH OF HOOEY!



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17 Jul 2016, 6:48 am

Not meant to breed, where did you get that from?
The only thing that I can think of that may prevent it is simply not being able to start or hold down a relationship for long enough, suggesting that we're not meant to reproduce is a bit over the top.


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17 Jul 2016, 11:05 am

How the hell are we supposed to reproduce if we can't even get into relationships? I'm already 20 years old and have never even been close to getting a girlfriend. They're just not interested in guys like me. I desperately want to get married eventually, but it doesn't seem like that will be possible.



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17 Jul 2016, 12:04 pm

The "designed" part of the title is baffling.

Who is it that is doing the "designing"?

But there is nothing wrong (morally,nor factually) with the rest of the statement: that ASD folks dont reproduce as readily as do NT folks. Aspies have social deficits that make it harder to get into romantic relationships. Thats just a statement of fact. Its not a guarantee that you cant start a family and have biological kids. But being on the AS doesnt help. Its like saying that "folks with club feet dont make the track team as readily as do other folks". Nothing to be upset about. Its just the way it is, and it what we all know anyway. Nothing newsworthy about it.

In fact per capita gay men sire more children than do heterosexual autistic men.



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17 Jul 2016, 4:17 pm

From my perspective, it all boils down to instincts. Yes we can certainly breed and be good parents, but all the things that define us, for lack of better words - make us women repellent. The instinct to mate with the best and strongest is well proven and well ingrained with people. Walk into any junior high in the county where first time love blooms every day and you'll see that principle in action.

For myself during that period, I was seen as being abhorrent by others. No girl that I knew would voluntarily do anything with me. If I was paired up with a girl for what ever reason, the result was always boisterous complaining about having to work with me. Any other time I got nothing but cold shoulders.

When I was in high school I actually got up the courage to ask a girl out one day at lunch. She ran out of the cafeteria sobbing.

Since that time I've three rather short attempts at relationships with the members of the opposite sex. None of which I was able to get off the ground. I could be just me. I don't know? But I've come to realize more of less that I'm not boyfriend material.


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17 Jul 2016, 5:18 pm

saxgeek wrote:
How the hell are we supposed to reproduce if we can't even get into relationships? I'm already 20 years old and have never even been close to getting a girlfriend. They're just not interested in guys like me. I desperately want to get married eventually, but it doesn't seem like that will be possible.


It took me until I was 24 to enter my first relationship of any kind and I'm still in it 10 years later. In my case I assumed my problem this was because I am unattractive and I also didn't like socialising in the same way as my peers as I found it unpleasant or tedious. I now (as of a few weeks ago) know I have an ASD so perhaps I was unattractive (but not in the wholly superficial way I had assumed) and the lack of socialisation (again possibly ASD) reduced the chances of meeting compatible people.

I met my partner through work and it was a few years before we actually got together.

I don't know your story but I can only suggest you would be better trying to meet someone through a means that is comfortable to you (i.e. through something related to what you enjoy) rather than trying to conform to perceived social norms meeting people in pubs/bars etc. If you're not comfortable in those places (I certainly wasn't) then it's unlikely you'll find someone compatible there.



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17 Jul 2016, 5:39 pm

If this question offends people I'm sorry about that, but I'm questioning myself as well. :|



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17 Jul 2016, 5:57 pm

Thank you. Reflecting on the myths (rather than replicating them) and seeing the wider diversities of AS being, beyond the marginalising stereotypes that abound in the NT world, is a beautiful possibility of WP and one of its major strengths.



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18 Jul 2016, 7:11 am

I wouldn't want to intentionally pass on my autism genes that caused me lots of suffering. However, it's not like I have an option in that matter as I'm going to die a virgin. Natural selection. :P I would prefer my dad had not passed on his diluted genes to me either.
Not meaning to offend anybody here.



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18 Jul 2016, 8:40 am

Well according to some new theories, the gene for autism was not some beneficial survival trait that evolved but is the restult of random mutation damages in the chromosomes creating a person. Most male aspies don't ever get married nor pass their traits down thus dying as virgins. But females sometimes a protected against these chromosomal and gene damages and give birth to children with the disease.


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