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06 Sep 2016, 8:48 pm

3d movies. i just can't see what the hype is all about. i mean... i literally can't see it :lol:

today i went to see a 3d movie for the first time. i was expecting to get a headache (because chances were i'd be in that percentage of the population who gets headaches when they watch 3d stuff, especially because, among other things, i was never able to see any of those "magic eye" hidden images back in the day). to my surprise though, it didn't give me any headache. because, as it turns out, i have absolutely no stereoscopic depth perception! :o

my eyesight is perfectly fine on both eyes, but the only difference to me with the 3d movie was that i had to wear those glasses to avoid seeing double. other than that (and the slightly higher price), it was absolutely no different from a regular screening. i closed each eye at different moments to see if there was any difference. nope. no difference. i'm a two-eyed cyclops

anybody else had a similar experience?


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06 Sep 2016, 9:04 pm

I had an ex who couldn't see the 3D films. He had eidetic memory as well. Not that they're related.

..Honestly, I've never understood the hype about it. It's poor quality compared to 2D TV. That reminds me...the cartoon series 2DTV was pretty funny. :D

Who is that in your avatar?

Edit: Sorry, had to add this...



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06 Sep 2016, 9:37 pm

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06 Sep 2016, 9:53 pm

smudge wrote:
Who is that in your avatar?

same guy as the one in my signature (it's a link :mrgreen:)

i took the signature from this other song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALxRwXRu8CI

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Who is that person in your avatar?

this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIjSaHUKD5I

that's one of the best movies i've ever seen. her avatar is from some other movie i haven't seen though

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anyway, this stuff now got me interested in this:

https://www.amazon.com/Fixing-My-Gaze-Scientists-Dimensions/dp/0465020739

i wonder if once in a blue moon when i have what i perceive as an acute derealization episode and i feel like "i'm seeing in 3d, and everything seems more real than it normally does" i might actually be seeing in 3d. i had strabismus before i even had long-term memory, so as far as i know i never had 3d vision. i wouldn't know what it's like

funny thing is, even though i am a terrible driver (to the point that i really don't think it's safe for me to drive, which may or may not be related to this stereoblindness thing), i'm actually pretty good at ping-pong (which is supposed to be the kind of thing you need stereo vision for)


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06 Sep 2016, 10:09 pm

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He is Daniel Bruhl. My avatar is him in The Countess. The character Bruhl plays is this countess's lover, but they're kept apart and she thinks he's purposely avoiding her, when really it's his father (I think?) who is keeping him away from her. She becomes obsessive and mad with heartache, and makes her own discovery that the blood from young women keeps her looking youthful. This countess then has lots of young women murdered for their blood.

I love the way Bruhl is dressed, I wish men would dress like that.


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06 Sep 2016, 10:14 pm

There was a real countess (or some such noble person) in Eastern Europe who did that: murdered young women, and bathed in their blood to keep herself young. One of the few female serial killers in history.



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06 Sep 2016, 10:15 pm

i had forgotten about it, but the other day i saw this video. it was like "whoa, it's like this is 3d. what's up with this? there's something very different about this video". and then i saw that it was 60fps. 1080p resolution sometimes makes things seem slightly more real, but it's nothing compared to 60fps (even at lower resolutions). i guess that because i can't see "3d", a good monitor, a good-enough resolution and 60fps is all it takes for a video to look almost 100% like "reality" to me


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06 Sep 2016, 10:17 pm

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There was a real countess (or some such noble person) in Eastern Europe who did that: murdered young women, and bathed in their blood to keep herself young. One of the few female serial killers in history.


[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Báthory]This lady[/url]? Yeh, I think the film was meant to be about her, or their own version anyway.


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06 Sep 2016, 10:23 pm

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i had forgotten about it, but the other day i saw this video. it was like "whoa, it's like this is 3d. what's up with this? there's something very different about this video". and then i saw that it was 60fps. 1080p resolution sometimes makes things seem slightly more real, but it's nothing compared to 60fps (even at lower resolutions). i guess that because i can't see "3d", a good monitor, a good-enough resolution and 60fps is all it takes for a video to look almost 100% like "reality" to me


Maybe it's because it's 4:20am here, but I'm not quite following you, and how the amount of FPS could make something appear more 3D.


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06 Sep 2016, 10:31 pm

I can see the 3D effect but it has to be pretty pronounced for me to see it. I have strabismus which I managed to correct the wall eyed appearance & can now focus with both eyes together but certain optical allusions still escape my brains ability to comprehend. depth is not one that totally escapes but is weak due to my brains lack of processing power in that domain



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06 Sep 2016, 10:34 pm

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Maybe it's because it's 4:20am here, but I'm not quite following you, and how the amount of FPS could make something appear more 3D.

well... it doesn't. but i wasn't aware that "i can't see 3d", and it seemed "real" to me, very unlike any other video i could remember (but not so unlike some video games, which i used to think was simply because of the immersive factor). it felt like she was "jumping out of the screen", like what people describe when they talk about 3d movies. i couldn't tell if it was depth perception or something else. i guess because i simply don't know what stereoscopic depth perception feels like


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06 Sep 2016, 10:43 pm

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I can see the 3D effect but it has to be pretty pronounced for me to see it. I have strabismus which I managed to correct the wall eyed appearance & can now focus with both eyes together but certain optical allusions still escape my brains ability to comprehend. depth is not one that totally escapes but is weak due to my brains lack of processing power in that domain

yeah i guess there can be some room for doubt depending on the movie. i was watching star trek though, so i'm taking it as definitive proof that i'm stereoblind. which to be honest was much more interesting to discover than it was interesting to watch the movie itself :lol:. star trek 1 was way better

at what age did you develop strabismus and at what age was it cured? was it inwards or outwards?


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07 Sep 2016, 12:30 am

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I had an ex who couldn't see the 3D films.

funny thing is my ex couldn't see 3d either. which is supposed to be rare. and for all i know, she's autistic. total coincidence? i think it's unlikely

though i never really understood what she meant about it, because she said she had a lazy/blind eye, but afaik she never had strabismus, and i never noticed anything odd about her eyes

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He had eidetic memory as well. Not that they're related.

they're not directly related, but i wonder if there's a connection anyway. not specifically between those two things, but between autism or "autistic stuff" (like eidetic memory) and other things we don't hear so much about, like anomalous visual integration in the brain. it seems very unlikely to me that i have my adhd and asd and just happen to have had early strabismus on top of it totally by coincidence. it manifests physically (misaligned eyes), and it's treated physically, but it's also a neurological condition

i've read that they've already found a correlation between outward strabismus and schizophrenia. that suggests that it's not unlikely that other related conditions (like inward strabismus) would be correlated (and somehow biologically related) to other neurological conditions


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07 Sep 2016, 12:39 am

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i had forgotten about it, but the other day i saw this video. it was like "whoa, it's like this is 3d. what's up with this? there's something very different about this video". and then i saw that it was 60fps. 1080p resolution sometimes makes things seem slightly more real, but it's nothing compared to 60fps (even at lower resolutions). i guess that because i can't see "3d", a good monitor, a good-enough resolution and 60fps is all it takes for a video to look almost 100% like "reality" to me

60 fps has a LOT more detail than 24fps, both temporally as well as spatially. that detail gives a sort of quasi-depth to many scenes.



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07 Sep 2016, 6:47 am

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i was never able to see any of those "magic eye" hidden images back in the day).


I always thought they were hoax's but the first time I did see one, my hair stood on end and it scared me a little.


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07 Sep 2016, 10:01 am

How old is naturalplastic, really?


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