Do Spectrumites have eye contact with themselves?

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16 May 2007, 5:44 am

Just a query that popped into mind. (in the sense of in a mirror or in a photo or something)

I'm perfectly able to have eye contact with myself in these sorts of things.


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16 May 2007, 5:46 am

I can look at myself in the mirror.



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16 May 2007, 5:58 am

I can have eye contact with myself if I look in the mirror or other reflective surface, or if I am looking at a photo of myself.

But I find that when I look in the mirror, I have difficulty connecting what I see with me as a person. It's like what I see doesn't feel real.

I sometimes don't feel real.

I think sometimes when I self harm it is because I feel disconnected from my body / image in the mirror - it's like it is okay to hurt myself because I'm not real - I'm not really me.

Hurting myself is a way of checking I'm real- and then when I hurt myself and realise that I have marked myself - that I am real - I hate myself for doing this to myself.

Sorry if that sounds wierd - I hope no-one thinks I am a bad person for this.



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16 May 2007, 6:04 am

I can't with my best friend or my brother and I'm sure they both are Aspie. I notice they don't look at me either. We all kind of looks at parts of ourselves. I also hate looking in the mirror and feel completely disconnected with what I see there. If I stare into my own eyes, I get the same sensation I get from other people.


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16 May 2007, 6:12 am

girl7000 wrote:
I can have eye contact with myself if I look in the mirror or other reflective surface, or if I am looking at a photo of myself.

But I find that when I look in the mirror, I have difficulty connecting what I see with me as a person. It's like what I see doesn't feel real.

I sometimes don't feel real.

I think sometimes when I self harm it is because I feel disconnected from my body / image in the mirror - it's like it is okay to hurt myself because I'm not real - I'm not really me.

Hurting myself is a way of checking I'm real- and then when I hurt myself and realise that I have marked myself - that I am real - I hate myself for doing this to myself.

Sorry if that sounds wierd - I hope no-one thinks I am a bad person for this.

Nah, that's alright, I find it perfectly okay. I often look in the mirror and go "That's MY face/body?", because my actual physical form of me isn't the same as my mentally projected form of me.

While I have the change, might I add that your Avatar is totally awesome!?


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16 May 2007, 6:23 am

Hi KBABZ,

Thanks for that - I'm glad you like the avatar :D

I'm glad you understand the feeling of being disconnected from the image of yourself you see in the mirror. It's nice to know it's not just me!



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16 May 2007, 6:28 am

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Hi KBABZ,

Thanks for that - I'm glad you like the avatar :D

I'm glad you understand the feeling of being disconnected from the image of yourself you see in the mirror. It's nice to know it's not just me!

Well actually, I've never had it on the level that you've had. I just find it really easy to accept people's differences and all that. But yeah, I don't go "Hey, I'm disconnected quite a lot from myself..." I go "Oh, huh, I guess I don't feel AS connected as I should."

I find my acceptance allows me to make friends real easy. Which is obviously a good thing considering what I've got going against me!

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16 May 2007, 6:50 am

KBABZ wrote:
I just find it really easy to accept people's differences and all that. But yeah, I don't go "Hey, I'm disconnected quite a lot from myself..." I go "Oh, huh, I guess I don't feel AS connected as I should."

I find my acceptance allows me to make friends real easy. Which is obviously a good thing considering what I've got going against me!

Same.

...And no problems looking in the mirror either at myself, or other people - i can make better eye contact with someone elses reflected face (in a mirror) than trying to look directly at them ....funny that.



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16 May 2007, 7:36 am

girl7000 wrote:
I can have eye contact with myself if I look in the mirror or other reflective surface, or if I am looking at a photo of myself.

But I find that when I look in the mirror, I have difficulty connecting what I see with me as a person. It's like what I see doesn't feel real.

I sometimes don't feel real.

I think sometimes when I self harm it is because I feel disconnected from my body / image in the mirror - it's like it is okay to hurt myself because I'm not real - I'm not really me.

Hurting myself is a way of checking I'm real- and then when I hurt myself and realise that I have marked myself - that I am real - I hate myself for doing this to myself.

Sorry if that sounds wierd - I hope no-one thinks I am a bad person for this.


I tend to do it to an extent too-I'll do my hair or something then sit around and wonder if it's really what I look like, then I start thinking of how other people perceive me-do I look like this to everyone or just to me? I don't get it to the point of wondering if I'm real or not (but I used to before I had kids :P)



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16 May 2007, 8:22 am

girl7000 wrote:
But I find that when I look in the mirror, I have difficulty connecting what I see with me as a person. It's like what I see doesn't feel real.


I know what you mean, because sometimes, when I look into the mirror, it's hard for me to identify with my reflection. I start wondering, is that really me in the mirror. I think thatt's because I sometimes almost forget that I'm a physical being, especially when I've been thinking something a long time. I get lost in my thoughts often.



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16 May 2007, 8:24 am

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I tend to do it to an extent too-I'll do my hair or something then sit around and wonder if it's really what I look like, then I start thinking of how other people perceive me-do I look like this to everyone or just to me? I don't get it to the point of wondering if I'm real or not (but I used to before I had kids :P)


It's interesting that it changed when you had children. I don't have any and don't know if I will or not...but I have certainly found that I have improved as I have got older in terms of my perception of my reality.

When I was a child / teenager I used to feel like this ALL THE TIME - now it still happens quite often, but it is actually nice that it is no longer constant.

Why do you think having children helped you stop having this problem? (sorry if that is a stupid question - but I really would be interested to know your thoughts)



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16 May 2007, 8:29 am

When I am in a public restroom, it is very, very difficult to look at myself in the miiror when there are other ladies doing so......I also cannot look at mirrors in public stores, it just makes me very uncomfortable...I have nice facial features, I should not be afraid to look, I just am so uncomfortable with that....I used to have the deer in the headlights appearance when people took my picture,now I relax more and take better pics.......



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16 May 2007, 8:31 am

Well, it's hard to think that you aren't real when you have 2 kiddos following you in and out of every room you go into, asking for things all the time, getting into fights and needing your intervention. I guess over time after adjusting to it, it just became a silly question to me because there are 2 very good things in my life constantly reminding me that I very well am here, and am needed :P

Before though, I would sit in a room for hours by myself, doing pretty much nothing-staring at the wall, thinking, spacing out, sorting things, I didn't feel real because I wasn't doing what others normally would do and because no one seemed to mind if I wasn't around, lol. Guess watching someone do the same things over and over and over isn't exactly entertaining :P So I started to wonder about it from time to time.

I do these things now, but am constantly brought back with "MOM! Libby whacked me on the head with her cup!! !! !! !! !! !! !!" or cries of "owwie!" and needing kisses for 'owwies', lol.



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16 May 2007, 9:34 am

I fell for it again.
I thought this thread was about zx-spectrums.
im such a ret*d :?



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16 May 2007, 10:47 am

I actually make amazing eye contact in the mirror and half the time I also love making faces in the mirror haha



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16 May 2007, 11:07 am

I have difficulty making eye contact in the mirror. Its almost as uncomfortable as looking at another person. I almost wrote real person instead of another person. I don't feel I'm real and sometimes and startled that the person in the mirror is suppose to be me.