Lying ....

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I can lie but I f*****g SUCK at lying. I was just bloody questioned by a relative over a lie I was suppose to tell. I couldn't look at the person, started mumbling, rambling, and laughing. How the hell are you suppose to lie convincingly

no idea, been trying for 40 years
my NT son is expert or is it that I just believe every riduculous thing he says

I used to be a partially pathological lier. Now I only tell lies if I have to. I have good practise at it though, what with the family situation.

My lies were always discovered. I save myself the hassle now and keep hush, it's easier.

Apparently the trick to lying convincingly is to believe it yourself.

Of course thats the hard part also.

Its easier and a makes life much simpler if you just don't lie. So I don't.

Hi,

I don't really lie because I feel really bad if I do.

The problem I have is that people often don't believe me when I am telling the truth (and like I said, I don't really lie anyway). I guess it must be because I don't give eye contact properly and I suppose I don't use the right body language or tones of voice or anything - but I don't know what the right non-verbal behaviours are to convince people you are telling the truth, and even if I did, because I'd have to make a conscious effort to 'perform' this each time, it would look fake anyway.

And it is frustrating that although I'm quite open about the fact I have AS, I still get judged on veracity by NT rules - It's silly really and by those standards I don't stand a chance of ever being believed.

Anyone else have this problem?

I used to fake sick on school days. If I thought about it enough, I would really start to believe I was sick. Still, my mum never believed me.

Yes.

Yeah thats one of the common problems we have.. people read our normal movements and habits as saying "I'm shady, devious and a chronic lier" in their language while it doesn't mean anything to us.

Thats another reason why I never lie. The only way you can counteract their preconceptions and misunderstandings is to develop a reputation for honor and honesty.

New employee: "Whats with her? Shes shifts from one foot to the other and never looks me in the eye.. is she a criminal or something? How can you trust her?"
Old employee: "Shes been with the company for 10 years and has never lied, cheated, stole, broken a promise or even spread gossip she has enough knowledge and access to the computer system to steal millions and be gone without a trace before anyone noticed and yet shes still here making nearly minimum wage and never complaining. I trust her more than you or anyone else around here."

(excerpt from an email exchange I was shown)

Suprisingly people seem to trust me for some reason.

I was practically a manager of a shop at the age of 18, took care of stock control, ordering, cash handling, dealing with wholesalers, the public and complaints, bills etc. In charge of 12 people on a fishing boat, boat maintenance and also checking the safety of scaffolding etc etc etc.

I'm trusted, especially around money. Dunno why though, I'm honest that way but I don't know why they know I am. (If that makes sense)

I'm a compulsive liar... I get it from my dad's side.

I know this sounds crazy, but I find that when I lie, half the time the lie comes back to kick me in the ass karma style. For instance, I remember once in grade school, I lied and told my mom I didn't feel good so I wouldn't have to go to school. She told me that if I had a temperature, I could stay home. We drove over to my grandmother's house (she lived down the street) to get a thermometer. I figured I was screwed and would have to go to school because I really felt fine but when she took my temp, I had a high fever. I ended up getting really sick for a week.

I used to lie all the time because I didn't want to deal with the consequences of my actions. I finally realized that taking personal responsibility and telling the truth is easier.

I am not incapable of lying...and when I was a kid I was a pathological story teller..stuff nobody would believe anyway.......but um....If I am supposed to lie about something I find it almost impossible.

I don’t understand deception and lying…I theorise that a part of my brain stopped developing before the onset of understanding deception; hence I’m unable to lie. With humour I have a lot of trouble too (it's full of lies)....

The only way I've adapted is by not trusting anything anyone says, which I find quite saddening. My experience with humanity made me this way.... Survival and all that.

here, here...i completely agree with everything you said....i find that if i am questioned enough about something that i believe in truly then i get amgry or irratated, which usually seems to validate the truth of the matter...

most times other than that i will just write people like off as ignorant and try not to think about them....
in the end people will either trust and accept you or not.....if you really care about what they think you should show them how pasionately you feel about the subject in a way that gains their attention the most (anger usually works best) and try and play the rest by ear...i honestly just did this for the first time in my life and i felt incredibly
better afterwards, and the other person finally understood and believed what i had said...

Ditto

I'm not particulary good at it either