03 Jan 2017, 1:47 am
blackicmenace wrote:
FandomConnection wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I don't believe in euthanasia and assisted suicide. I don't want to be told that it's my duty to die because I have a disability.
There are measures in place (wherever euthanasia is legal) to prevent people from being forced to die. It is only available to people with terminal illness, as a means of alleviating the suffering caused by a lingering death. Candidates need to be able to make their own rational decisions, and undergo extensive counselling first to ensure that it is what they truly want. The choice for euthanasia needs to be based on the individual alone, with no consideration for the desires of the family or others. It is not about killing off those with disabilities.
That said, I do take your point. It would be terrible to be pressured by others to die simply because the means are legally available; however, I do support euthanasia for people who are dying in a painful way, and wish to die to prevent more suffering. I do think that suicide should be prevented if possible, because it is a waste of a person's potential life. I am not religious (atheist), so I don't believe that suicide is morally wrong, just that there is nothing after death, so a person should not lightly divorce themself from their only conscious state. If a person is dying anyway, I believe that it can be easier and less traumatic for them to be able to control their death so as to alleviate further pain.
I hope that this is not insensitive or upsetting. I apologise that I am not adept at tempering my expression; this is just my opinion and I mean no disrespect for anybody.
Taking one's life is a very difficult thing to do. In 39 years I have only managed 1 attempt but have spent countless hours thinking about it. I would venture to guess, it is much easier to take someone else's life than your own. The instinct to survive is very powerful.
I contemplated suicide for three years, from when I was 10 to 13 years old. I probably would have killed myself had I known how, but each time I thought about a method, I was worried it would not work. The human body is very well protected, and there is little chance of dying painlessly or quickly by one's own hand.
I'm fine, now. Don't worry.
I'm very glad I didn't kill myself.
03 Jan 2017, 3:48 am
FandomConnection wrote:
blackicmenace wrote:
FandomConnection wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I don't believe in euthanasia and assisted suicide. I don't want to be told that it's my duty to die because I have a disability.
There are measures in place (wherever euthanasia is legal) to prevent people from being forced to die. It is only available to people with terminal illness, as a means of alleviating the suffering caused by a lingering death. Candidates need to be able to make their own rational decisions, and undergo extensive counselling first to ensure that it is what they truly want. The choice for euthanasia needs to be based on the individual alone, with no consideration for the desires of the family or others. It is not about killing off those with disabilities.
That said, I do take your point. It would be terrible to be pressured by others to die simply because the means are legally available; however, I do support euthanasia for people who are dying in a painful way, and wish to die to prevent more suffering. I do think that suicide should be prevented if possible, because it is a waste of a person's potential life. I am not religious (atheist), so I don't believe that suicide is morally wrong, just that there is nothing after death, so a person should not lightly divorce themself from their only conscious state. If a person is dying anyway, I believe that it can be easier and less traumatic for them to be able to control their death so as to alleviate further pain.
I hope that this is not insensitive or upsetting. I apologise that I am not adept at tempering my expression; this is just my opinion and I mean no disrespect for anybody.
Taking one's life is a very difficult thing to do. In 39 years I have only managed 1 attempt but have spent countless hours thinking about it. I would venture to guess, it is much easier to take someone else's life than your own. The instinct to survive is very powerful.
I contemplated suicide for three years, from when I was 10 to 13 years old. I probably would have killed myself had I known how, but each time I thought about a method, I was worried it would not work. The human body is very well protected, and there is little chance of dying painlessly or quickly by one's own hand.
I'm fine, now. Don't worry.
I'm very glad I didn't kill myself.I'm glad you didn't hurt yourself. Fear can be a great motivator and one our most powerful instincts. It can also be humanity's worst quality. Depending on one's fight or flight response, adrenaline can either overcome or succumb to one's fear. Your life has only begun, you seem very kind and intelligent. I'm sure you have good things are in store for you. As the Vulcans say, live long and prosper.
03 Jan 2017, 4:46 am
blackicmenace wrote:
FandomConnection wrote:
blackicmenace wrote:
FandomConnection wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I don't believe in euthanasia and assisted suicide. I don't want to be told that it's my duty to die because I have a disability.
There are measures in place (wherever euthanasia is legal) to prevent people from being forced to die. It is only available to people with terminal illness, as a means of alleviating the suffering caused by a lingering death. Candidates need to be able to make their own rational decisions, and undergo extensive counselling first to ensure that it is what they truly want. The choice for euthanasia needs to be based on the individual alone, with no consideration for the desires of the family or others. It is not about killing off those with disabilities.
That said, I do take your point. It would be terrible to be pressured by others to die simply because the means are legally available; however, I do support euthanasia for people who are dying in a painful way, and wish to die to prevent more suffering. I do think that suicide should be prevented if possible, because it is a waste of a person's potential life. I am not religious (atheist), so I don't believe that suicide is morally wrong, just that there is nothing after death, so a person should not lightly divorce themself from their only conscious state. If a person is dying anyway, I believe that it can be easier and less traumatic for them to be able to control their death so as to alleviate further pain.
I hope that this is not insensitive or upsetting. I apologise that I am not adept at tempering my expression; this is just my opinion and I mean no disrespect for anybody.
Taking one's life is a very difficult thing to do. In 39 years I have only managed 1 attempt but have spent countless hours thinking about it. I would venture to guess, it is much easier to take someone else's life than your own. The instinct to survive is very powerful.
I contemplated suicide for three years, from when I was 10 to 13 years old. I probably would have killed myself had I known how, but each time I thought about a method, I was worried it would not work. The human body is very well protected, and there is little chance of dying painlessly or quickly by one's own hand.
I'm fine, now. Don't worry.
I'm very glad I didn't kill myself.I'm glad you didn't hurt yourself. Fear can be a great motivator and one our most powerful instincts. It can also be humanity's worst quality. Depending on one's fight or flight response, adrenaline can either overcome or succumb to one's fear. Your life has only begun, you seem very kind and intelligent. I'm sure you have good things are in store for you. As the Vulcans say, live long and prosper.
Thank you. Live long and prosper. \\//
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Hey Campin_Cat! Yeah, just thought I'd pop in and contribute to a depressing topic. 
Good to see you, too!
Daniel89, that is true - assisted suicide, if you manage to get it, is pretty safe. (Though it feels funny to use the word "safe" to mean "guaranteed to kill you"!)
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