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28 Apr 2017, 8:38 pm

I am under a lot of stress at the moment ( family issues ) and am finding it increasingly difficult to keep my anger under control.

I am in a strange place ( in my mind ) at the moment and find even the simplest conversation taxing , it can me feel angry and I usually lash out ( with my tongue ) and I don't understand why. When people talk to me I just want them to shut up and stop wasting my time ( time I prefer spending in my head ). I feel that no one actually talks to me but talk at me , It makes me feel like a terrible person.

It doesn't help that I think I may be surrounded by people who have issues , I don't think I talk to anyone at the moment who doesn't have problems maybe even spectrum problems - it seems like I have I isolated myself from the world except for 2 people who I think are also on the spectrum.

Does this sound like typical issues people on the spectrum have or does it sound like another disorder?


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28 Apr 2017, 9:02 pm

That kind of frustration and inability to deal with the complicated stuff (read: other people) is absolutely common on the spectrum. It is just one type of overload, and can even be delayed (sometimes hard to remember what sent you there).



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29 Apr 2017, 11:50 am

Redxk wrote:
That kind of frustration and inability to deal with the complicated stuff (read: other people) is absolutely common on the spectrum. It is just one type of overload, and can even be delayed (sometimes hard to remember what sent you there).


thanks Redxk , how long can the delay be , days ? or hours ?


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29 Apr 2017, 12:16 pm

Boy, oh, boy, being overloaded sucks so much. I can't speak for anyone else, but the only way I've ever known how to get past it is isolation. I don't know if that solves it, really. All I know is that spending an evening playing video games or turning off my phone and reading a book until I fall asleep usually puts me on the right path by the next day or the day after. Sometimes, if it's really bad, I end up having to take some actual time off. Like cash in vacation time and lock myself in my house for a week.

The worst it ever got for me was when I kind of went catatonic. It's only happened twice. The first time was because I was overloaded (the second was being overloaded as well, but was triggered by a severe trauma). I was married at the time and it was going bad. We were broke with two kids and we had no idea how we were going to pay the rent every month. I was at work and one of my coworkers walked up to me and asked me a question. I couldn't understand him. I looked at him from my computer and just stared at him. I heard the words. I recognized them as English, but I couldn't respond because I just didn't know what he was saying. That time it only happened for a few seconds, but it was really scary.

I would say if it's possible, take a break from everyone for a day or two. Or maybe even a few hours might help.


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29 Apr 2017, 12:24 pm

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I would say if it's possible, take a break from everyone for a day or two. Or maybe even a few hours might help.


Unfortunately not possible at the moment but I will asap , thanks

Incidentally are you a Jamie Hewlett fan or a TG fan ?


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29 Apr 2017, 4:16 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
Redxk wrote:
That kind of frustration and inability to deal with the complicated stuff (read: other people) is absolutely common on the spectrum. It is just one type of overload, and can even be delayed (sometimes hard to remember what sent you there).


thanks Redxk , how long can the delay be , days ? or hours ?

It can be days.



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29 Apr 2017, 4:22 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
Strangelittlegirl wrote:

I would say if it's possible, take a break from everyone for a day or two. Or maybe even a few hours might help.


Unfortunately not possible at the moment but I will asap , thanks

Incidentally are you a Jamie Hewlett fan or a TG fan ?


Good eye! I'm dating myself a little, here, but I got into TG sometime right before the movie came out. The few comics I had I lost between moves, divorces, etc, etc over the years. She still holds a special place in my heart, though. :heart:

Hey, speaking of Jamie Hewlett, though, I heard through the grapevine, though, that Gorillaz is going to be a series, I think? Like on Netflix. :)


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29 Apr 2017, 7:17 pm

I find people annoying too. I sometimes get annoyed and irritated by simple things, when I have certain moments to myself.



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30 Apr 2017, 7:12 am

Redxk wrote:
SaveFerris wrote:
Redxk wrote:
That kind of frustration and inability to deal with the complicated stuff (read: other people) is absolutely common on the spectrum. It is just one type of overload, and can even be delayed (sometimes hard to remember what sent you there).


thanks Redxk , how long can the delay be , days ? or hours ?

It can be days.


Wow!! ! that long , I can see why it would be hard to remember what sent you there.


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30 Apr 2017, 7:18 am

Strangelittlegirl wrote:
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Strangelittlegirl wrote:

I would say if it's possible, take a break from everyone for a day or two. Or maybe even a few hours might help.


Unfortunately not possible at the moment but I will asap , thanks

Incidentally are you a Jamie Hewlett fan or a TG fan ?


Good eye! I'm dating myself a little, here, but I got into TG sometime right before the movie came out. The few comics I had I lost between moves, divorces, etc, etc over the years. She still holds a special place in my heart, though. :heart:

Hey, speaking of Jamie Hewlett, though, I heard through the grapevine, though, that Gorillaz is going to be a series, I think? Like on Netflix. :)


I used to be a big TG fan and loved Jamie's artwork ( used to draw TG a lot ) , I didn't know about the Gorillaz series , that should be interesting , I hope Alan Martin has a hand in writing it.


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30 Apr 2017, 7:22 am

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I find people annoying too. I sometimes get annoyed and irritated by simple things, when I have certain moments to myself.


I haven't been assessed yet so I don't know if my annoyance is related to ASD , if it's not then I have no idea why I feel the way I do :roll: .

ASD answers a hell of lot of questions for me but if I don't have it then I'm just really damaged :D


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30 Apr 2017, 2:53 pm

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01 May 2017, 10:19 pm

I am under a lot of stress at the moment ( family issues ) and am finding it increasingly difficult to keep my anger under control.

I am in a strange place ( in my mind ) at the moment and find even the simplest conversation taxing , it can me feel angry and I usually lash out ( with my tongue ) and I don't understand why. When people talk to me I just want them to shut up and stop wasting my time ( time I prefer spending in my head ). I feel that no one actually talks to me but talk at me , It makes me feel like a terrible person.

It doesn't help that I think I may be surrounded by people who have issues , I don't think I talk to anyone at the moment who doesn't have problems maybe even spectrum problems - it seems like I have I isolated myself from the world except for 2 people who I think are also on the spectrum.

Does this sound like typical issues people on the spectrum have or does it sound like another disorder?

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although i do not have a legal right to diagnose you, yes it sounds like autism.

and i feel that way a lot. at 34, the older i get, the more often i feel that way. the more intensely i feel that way.

quite frankly, sometimes it feels like everything is just too trivial or too controversial to talk about. if it is trivial (sports, weather, normal pleasantries), why talk about it? if it is controversial (politics, religion), then i end up talking about it the wrong way (not to say that there is a right way), and then some idiot acts all self-important, insulted, and offended. :roll:

sometimes it gets on my nerves how neurotypicals, especially extroverts, act like whenever they are interacting with someone, their mouth has to be open.

then those lil morons act like "smile!" or "why are you smiling?".
"you were talking too loud at trader joe's" and "huh?".
"you talk too much" and "why are you so quiet?".

they are so judgmental. negative extroverts. but uppity extroverts too. one aikido instructor had the nerve to say "(my name) is the most flexible person i know." four times. he said it like it was a compliment and i had to say "thank you". :roll: (what?) maybe he does not know many people. he did not measure the flexibility of everyone he knows. and then proclaim me the winner. besides, excessive flexibility is not necessarily a good thing. certain diseases, such as Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, has excessive flexibility as a symptom. 8) but, of course, that precious little "person" did not do anything illegal. and the saying goes "pick your battles." so, as usual, like the passive aggressive, annoyed, hateful coward i am, i just passive aggressively ignored the little moron.

then another aikido instructor asked how old i was. answered. he had the nerve to tell me that it was good, b/c i look younger than i am. and that when i get old(er), i will continue to look younger than i am, and that is to my advantage.

:mrgreen:

okay, (what?).

first of all, a drunk driver might run me over tomorrow, and i will not get to (or have to) live long enough, for it to be advantageous to look younger than chronological age.

second of all, i might not continue to age at the same rate the rest of my life.

third of all, the age i appear to him is not the age i appear to everyone.

fourth of all, looking younger than your age has inconveniences and disadvantages. for example, being treated like an adorable little child. when i ain't the slightest bit adorable.

and he, too, told me that like it was a compliment.

but positive judgments are just as judgmental as negative ones.

when someone says "(my name) has a good sense of direction", she did not know that i had been to that location numerous times before, and it was not that i had "a good sense of direction.

especially vague, syrupy, condescending little compliments about my appearance, voice, or intelligence or moral character.

someone has the nerve to tell me "i like your haircut"? it's like, oh great, you like my haircut. as it matters if you like my haircut? you do not have to like my haircut. i do not benefit when you like my haircut. some of those precious little "people" seriously act so entitled that they truly believe, that they have a moral right to have everything they like. even down to something as meaningless, trifle, and superficial as someone else's haircut.

someone. else's. haircut.

previous precious little "friends" have had the nerve to tell me "you look different wearing glasses." "you walk all slumped over."

seriously?

(puke)

it was like :) one action: one statement :D

in other words, for every one action i made, they made one statement.

those big egoed, self-important little knuckleheads' mouth did not get tired. they acted like they were so absolutely important, that every thought and emotion they had was as awesome as the :skull: latest greatest scientific invention. :skull:

then they act so innocent. like they let their dogs off leash. they act like "i didn't bite you. my off leash dog bit you."

then they act like "may i help you?". but that is not how they treat their precious little friends.

"are you ok?". as if they were so powerful, innocent, and helpful that they could spot when i was not "ok". and what does it mean to be "ok" anyways? and besides what if i was not ok, then what? what could they do to change it? maybe they were just bothering me.

"do you have a question?". as if if i had a question, they had an answer.

when i say something they half listen. then they grunt "huh" and "what", like those words are the etiquette equivalent of "excuse me".



some precious little "people" do not deserve to live.



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02 May 2017, 4:27 pm

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although i do not have a legal right to diagnose you, yes it sounds like autism.

and i feel that way a lot. at 34, the older i get, the more often i feel that way. the more intensely i feel that way.

quite frankly, sometimes it feels like everything is just too trivial or too controversial to talk about. if it is trivial (sports, weather, normal pleasantries), why talk about it? if it is controversial (politics, religion), then i end up talking about it the wrong way (not to say that there is a right way), and then some idiot acts all self-important, insulted, and offended. :roll:

sometimes it gets on my nerves how neurotypicals, especially extroverts, act like whenever they are interacting with someone, their mouth has to be open.

then those lil morons act like "smile!" or "why are you smiling?".
"you were talking too loud at trader joe's" and "huh?".
"you talk too much" and "why are you so quiet?".

they are so judgmental. negative extroverts. but uppity extroverts too. one aikido instructor had the nerve to say "(my name) is the most flexible person i know." four times. he said it like it was a compliment and i had to say "thank you". :roll: (what?) maybe he does not know many people. he did not measure the flexibility of everyone he knows. and then proclaim me the winner. besides, excessive flexibility is not necessarily a good thing. certain diseases, such as Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, has excessive flexibility as a symptom. 8) but, of course, that precious little "person" did not do anything illegal. and the saying goes "pick your battles." so, as usual, like the passive aggressive, annoyed, hateful coward i am, i just passive aggressively ignored the little moron.

then another aikido instructor asked how old i was. answered. he had the nerve to tell me that it was good, b/c i look younger than i am. and that when i get old(er), i will continue to look younger than i am, and that is to my advantage.

:mrgreen:

okay, (what?).

first of all, a drunk driver might run me over tomorrow, and i will not get to (or have to) live long enough, for it to be advantageous to look younger than chronological age.

second of all, i might not continue to age at the same rate the rest of my life.

third of all, the age i appear to him is not the age i appear to everyone.

fourth of all, looking younger than your age has inconveniences and disadvantages. for example, being treated like an adorable little child. when i ain't the slightest bit adorable.

and he, too, told me that like it was a compliment.

but positive judgments are just as judgmental as negative ones.

when someone says "(my name) has a good sense of direction", she did not know that i had been to that location numerous times before, and it was not that i had "a good sense of direction.

especially vague, syrupy, condescending little compliments about my appearance, voice, or intelligence or moral character.

someone has the nerve to tell me "i like your haircut"? it's like, oh great, you like my haircut. as it matters if you like my haircut? you do not have to like my haircut. i do not benefit when you like my haircut. some of those precious little "people" seriously act so entitled that they truly believe, that they have a moral right to have everything they like. even down to something as meaningless, trifle, and superficial as someone else's haircut.

someone. else's. haircut.

previous precious little "friends" have had the nerve to tell me "you look different wearing glasses." "you walk all slumped over."

seriously?

(puke)

it was like :) one action: one statement :D

in other words, for every one action i made, they made one statement.

those big egoed, self-important little knuckleheads' mouth did not get tired. they acted like they were so absolutely important, that every thought and emotion they had was as awesome as the :skull: latest greatest scientific invention. :skull:

then they act so innocent. like they let their dogs off leash. they act like "i didn't bite you. my off leash dog bit you."

then they act like "may i help you?". but that is not how they treat their precious little friends.

"are you ok?". as if they were so powerful, innocent, and helpful that they could spot when i was not "ok". and what does it mean to be "ok" anyways? and besides what if i was not ok, then what? what could they do to change it? maybe they were just bothering me.

"do you have a question?". as if if i had a question, they had an answer.

when i say something they half listen. then they grunt "huh" and "what", like those words are the etiquette equivalent of "excuse me".



some precious little "people" do not deserve to live.


Thanks for the input , a very interesting post. When do you think it started for you ( at what age ).


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02 May 2017, 9:44 pm

"Thanks for the input , a very interesting post. When do you think it started for you ( at what age )."

you are welcome.

when I was 21, I got diagnosed.

when I was 16, I read an article in Omni magazine about aspergers, and it sounded like I had it.

and when I was young, I felt socially awkward for a long time. maybe around 6th grade or so.