High functioning autism and WJTCA scores

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Brandon30
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18 Jul 2016, 9:26 pm

From my understanding the WJTCA is the most common IQ test but autistic individuals score lower on it and much higher on the Ravens matrices test. Does anyone know what the average increase of an IQ is when talking a Ravens test? I think a had an WJTCA when I was younger but I'm curious what the probable increase would be if it was Ravens matrices test, without paying for an exact result. I'm curious if there is anyone that has taken both or knows the average increase?



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19 Jul 2016, 5:53 pm

I don't know what the average increase is.
There are free matrices tests on the web if you want to take a test.
This is one: https://www.123test.com/abstract-reasoning-test/
There is also a lot of interesting information in this thread:http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=222662



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19 Jul 2016, 6:38 pm

Thanks:)



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19 Jul 2016, 10:36 pm

Brandon30 wrote:
Thanks:)

You're welcome!



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11 Jan 2017, 3:57 pm

Marybird wrote:
I don't know what the average increase is.
There are free matrices tests on the web if you want to take a test.
This is one: https://www.123test.com/abstract-reasoning-test/
There is also a lot of interesting information in this thread:http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=222662

What are the usual scores on this? I got 8-10. What does it mean?



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12 Jan 2017, 12:29 am

TheAvenger161173 wrote:
Marybird wrote:
I don't know what the average increase is.
There are free matrices tests on the web if you want to take a test.
This is one: https://www.123test.com/abstract-reasoning-test/
There is also a lot of interesting information in this thread:http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=222662

What are the usual scores on this? I got 8-10. What does it mean?

Nothing by itself, but it is usually a relative strength in autistic individuals compared to their Wechsler scores.
It's a visual-spatial test of non-verbal or fluid reasoning.
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Block Design is not the only abstract spatial test on which autistic individuals excel. The Raven’s Progressive Matrices [27] is an even more abstract test [25], [26], and autistic individuals show a relative strength on Raven’s Progressive Matrices. Autistic children and adults score higher on Raven’s Progressive Standard Matrices than they score on Wechsler tests [28], [29], [30], [31]; in contrast, non-autistic children and adults score the same across the two types of tests. When autistic and non-autistic children are matched on their performance on Wechsler tests, autistic children are more accurate than non-autistic children on the Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices [32]. When autistic and non-autistic adults are equal in their accuracy on the Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices, autistic individuals are faster [33]. Even for non-autistic adults, their degree of autistic traits predicts their successful completion of Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices items that are considered more visual-spatial [34]. Thus, autistic individuals’ performance on the Raven’s Progressive Matrices, the most agreed upon test of abstract spatial reasoning, suggests a strength in abstract spatial reasoning.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0059329



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12 Jan 2017, 12:04 pm

Marybird wrote:
TheAvenger161173 wrote:
Marybird wrote:
I don't know what the average increase is.
There are free matrices tests on the web if you want to take a test.
This is one: https://www.123test.com/abstract-reasoning-test/
There is also a lot of interesting information in this thread:http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=222662

What are the usual scores on this? I got 8-10. What does it mean?

Nothing by itself, but it is usually a relative strength in autistic individuals compared to their Wechsler scores.
It's a visual-spatial test of non-verbal or fluid reasoning.
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Block Design is not the only abstract spatial test on which autistic individuals excel. The Raven’s Progressive Matrices [27] is an even more abstract test [25], [26], and autistic individuals show a relative strength on Raven’s Progressive Matrices. Autistic children and adults score higher on Raven’s Progressive Standard Matrices than they score on Wechsler tests [28], [29], [30], [31]; in contrast, non-autistic children and adults score the same across the two types of tests. When autistic and non-autistic children are matched on their performance on Wechsler tests, autistic children are more accurate than non-autistic children on the Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices [32]. When autistic and non-autistic adults are equal in their accuracy on the Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices, autistic individuals are faster [33]. Even for non-autistic adults, their degree of autistic traits predicts their successful completion of Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices items that are considered more visual-spatial [34]. Thus, autistic individuals’ performance on the Raven’s Progressive Matrices, the most agreed upon test of abstract spatial reasoning, suggests a strength in abstract spatial reasoning.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0059329
Suprised I scored 8 didn't think it was something I would do ok at.



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13 Jan 2017, 5:14 pm

I had my IQ recently measured as 119 on a Wechsler adult test. My psychiatrist explicitly noted that the test often shows AS peoples' IQs as lower than they truly are. I think if I took the Raven test I'd be well over 130.


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14 Jan 2017, 6:06 am

TheAvenger161173 wrote:
Marybird wrote:
I don't know what the average increase is.
There are free matrices tests on the web if you want to take a test.
This is one: https://www.123test.com/abstract-reasoning-test/
There is also a lot of interesting information in this thread:http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=222662

What are the usual scores on this? I got 8-10. What does it mean?


I scored eight, too. I answered the last two questions incorrectly.


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14 Jan 2017, 10:54 am

I got 4 on that test.


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14 Jan 2017, 4:07 pm

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I got 4 on that test.


I didn't do so well either, I got 5. It was interesting to say the least.


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14 Jan 2017, 4:18 pm

JakeASD wrote:
TheAvenger161173 wrote:
Marybird wrote:
I don't know what the average increase is.
There are free matrices tests on the web if you want to take a test.
This is one: https://www.123test.com/abstract-reasoning-test/
There is also a lot of interesting information in this thread:http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=222662

What are the usual scores on this? I got 8-10. What does it mean?


I scored eight, too. I answered the last two questions incorrectly.

Same struggled last two.



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10 May 2017, 1:44 pm

Scored a 9 out of 10. I did not note the integer correlation in #9.


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10 May 2017, 2:42 pm

JoeNavy wrote:
Scored a 9 out of 10. I did not note the integer correlation in #9.

i got 9/10 and i didn't understand #9 either. Even after the explanation it made no sense to me


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10 May 2017, 2:51 pm

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Scored a 9 out of 10. I did not note the integer correlation in #9.

i got 9/10 and i didn't understand #9 either. Even after the explanation it made no sense to me


They used the dots inside as negatives, dots outside as positive. the value of the first two columns equals the third column on each row.
2+1=3
-1+3=2
-2+1=-1 (Triangle with dot in the middle)


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10 May 2017, 2:53 pm

JoeNavy wrote:
teksla wrote:
JoeNavy wrote:
Scored a 9 out of 10. I did not note the integer correlation in #9.

i got 9/10 and i didn't understand #9 either. Even after the explanation it made no sense to me


They used the dots inside as negatives, dots outside as positive. the value of the first two columns equals the third column on each row.
2+1=3
-1+3=2
-2+1=-1 (Triangle with dot in the middle)

Now i understood it! Thank you! Feel super stupid that i didnt get it in the first place.


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