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01 Aug 2018, 2:19 pm

While I think that making a news story out of the event is a little over the top, I agree with what the man did.

I have a personal connection to make with regard to this story. When I was in second grade, during lunch I often liked helping the janitor clean up a certain table group, I got to push the massive 6 foot wide dust mop and use the wet mop and wringer bucket. I just loved it, it was fun to me - disregarding my classmates laughing at me 20 feet away.

Sadly, this did not last long, the school principle shut it down and told the janitor not to let me help and told me that I should be interacting with my class mates instead, disregarding the fact that they didn't like me anyway.


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01 Aug 2018, 4:27 pm

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While I think that making a news story out of the event is a little over the top, I agree with what the man did.

I have a personal connection to make with regard to this story. When I was in second grade, during lunch I often liked helping the janitor clean up a certain table group, I got to push the massive 6 foot wide dust mop and use the wet mop and wringer bucket. I just loved it, it was fun to me - disregarding my classmates laughing at me 20 feet away.

Sadly, this did not last long, the school principle shut it down and told the janitor not to let me help and told me that I should be interacting with my class mates instead, disregarding the fact that they didn't like me anyway.


I don't have a problem with what the worker did, I have a problem with the contextual response.

The boy enjoys stocking the shelves. Great. But if you understood why people are reacting in the way they are you would see that they both hold a low opinion of the boy's capabilities and see him as a tool to display their own status.

People like to use the differently abled to make themselves look good...I am not saying that was the intention of the worker...I think he was just being kind, but those lauding him would not be making such a fuss about it if they were like minded.

I think the terms for this is "disability porn" much like poverty porn where people from affluent countries go volunteer in some impoverished village somewhere and document it to show what a great saviour they are as if the villagers are helpless.

Why not help poor Americans? Because they won't look at good.



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01 Aug 2018, 4:42 pm

Are you saying poor Americans should be helped in preference to poor people elsewhere in the world? How about letting everyone help or not help whomever they damn want to?


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01 Aug 2018, 7:19 pm

Makes me think of the spoiled rich white girls that get volunteer hours in the special ed classrooms to make themselves look like saints and angels to the teachers and administration. These girls are really condescending, giggly little airheads that think they are better than everyone else and they don't really contribute anything to those classes.



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01 Aug 2018, 7:45 pm

You make it sound like it'd be less bad if spoiled rich non-white girls did it.


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01 Aug 2018, 8:21 pm

The news story (not the people involved) was a bit condescending but it probably fell short of being "inspiration porn"
Please Stop Spreading 'Inspiration Porn' About Disability

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There’s a strange phenomenon on the internet that we in the disability community refer to as “inspiration porn.” It’s where abled people use pictures of disabled people to exclaim how inspirational they are simply for existing, or use it to guilt abled people into trying harder because if a disabled person can brush their teeth, then surely you can do anything.

Inspiration porn objectifies disabled people. It is absolutely wonderful to celebrate the accomplishments of disabled people, just as it is to celebrate the accomplishments of abled people. However, when images of disabled people are accompanied by slogans such as, “what’s your excuse?” or “your excuse is invalid,” disabled people aren’t being lifted up or celebrated. We’re being used as a tool to guilt abled people into trying harder.


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01 Aug 2018, 8:59 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
The next story (not the people involved) was a bit condescending but it probably fell short of being "inspiration porn"
Please Stop Spreading 'Inspiration Porn' About Disability
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There’s a strange phenomenon on the internet that we in the disability community refer to as “inspiration porn.” It’s where abled people use pictures of disabled people to exclaim how inspirational they are simply for existing, or use it to guilt abled people into trying harder because if a disabled person can brush their teeth, then surely you can do anything.

Inspiration porn objectifies disabled people. It is absolutely wonderful to celebrate the accomplishments of disabled people, just as it is to celebrate the accomplishments of abled people. However, when images of disabled people are accompanied by slogans such as, “what’s your excuse?” or “your excuse is invalid,” disabled people aren’t being lifted up or celebrated. We’re being used as a tool to guilt abled people into trying harder.


This reminds me of that episode of Speechless were JayJay got upset at his classmates for using him as inspiration porn.



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01 Aug 2018, 9:08 pm

For all we know, Elaine might not even be white....and even if she is, she knows rich white girls have privilege at least where I live.



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02 Aug 2018, 1:11 am

Spiderpig wrote:
Are you saying poor Americans should be helped in preference to poor people elsewhere in the world? How about letting everyone help or not help whomever they damn want to?


I'm saying a lot of people who help the poor and disabled only do so to make themselves look better. The more contrast between them and the group they are helping, the better they look. It's a form of exploitation.



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02 Aug 2018, 2:49 am

Spiderpig wrote:
You make it sound like it'd be less bad if spoiled rich non-white girls did it.
I didn't get the white context either.



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02 Aug 2018, 2:59 am

I don't have a problem with the shop assistant, the following comment is in relation to other comments on this thread.


I am always uncomfortable whenever anyone displays their charity or dogoodyness, it's vulgar. It's more about telling everyone else they're a nice person that in genuinely trying to help others. Sometimes someone will even say at a meal 'I'll pay for you (to a friend), I know things are tough at the moment' in front of other and things like that. I think wanting the public credit takes all the positive out of helping someone. So much kinder to help someone discretely.



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02 Aug 2018, 8:10 pm

fluffysaurus wrote:
I don't have a problem with the shop assistant, the following comment is in relation to other comments on this thread.


I am always uncomfortable whenever anyone displays their charity or dogoodyness, it's vulgar. It's more about telling everyone else they're a nice person that in genuinely trying to help others. Sometimes someone will even say at a meal 'I'll pay for you (to a friend), I know things are tough at the moment' in front of other and things like that. I think wanting the public credit takes all the positive out of helping someone. So much kinder to help someone discretely.


I agree, Fluffysaurus. People shouldn't brag everytime they help someone or donate money. I also can't stand it when people feel the need to have their names plastered everywhere when they make a monetary donation. I like it better when people make anonymous donations.



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02 Aug 2018, 10:44 pm

It's great that people want to help. I don't like it when they ramble on about it.


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03 Aug 2018, 12:07 am

fluffysaurus wrote:
I didn't get the white context either.


Apparently, it's okay to be racist against white people.


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03 Aug 2018, 12:58 am

I felt sorry for the worker, he looked confused and overwhelmed by all the attention.

I guess he took a risk though, he would be responsible for any damages to the stock; he could have a boss that would see actions like this as, inappropriate interaction with customers, dossing or wasting time.

It must of been a slow news day.