The link between autism / ADHD and radon / uranium

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10 May 2017, 5:46 pm

Article with LINKS available on assopyrophor dot org (posted 8th of May)

Samira Alaani, pediatrist and neonatalogist in Fallujah, has noted a very strong increase in autism and ADHD since 2004 in the city (extensively bombed by the US in 2003 – 2004 and known for record levels of birth defects, less for its peak of Down Syndrome cases). This confirms really well the correlation observated from a very extensive survey of autism in Portugal (on more than 332 000 children) which shows that the levels of prevalence are much more elevated in the Azores (where the autism ratio is the highest), in the Center and in Lisboa than in Algarve. Extremely elevated levels of radon have been recorded in the Azores, and natural radioactivity is higher in the Center of Portugal and in the West of Spain, where the Tejo river takes its source (it is an important source for tap water in Lisboa ; water can carry radon and uranium / thorium as well as all their decay chain in dissolved form). The most important pumping station of Lisboa is in Castelo de Bode, Tomar, so water coming from the radon-rich Guarda region is distributed in the capital.

This also could be confirmed by autism prevalence surveys in the US, for instance the CDC data ; for instance it is well known that the lowest level of autism in the country is found in Alabama (very low radon level), and Utah has a very elevated level, as well as Minnesota and Maine, which are three States with very elevated radon levels. Of course it is more difficult to draw conclusions from an aggregation of diagnosis from various clinicians, in a country where the average level of education is not the same in each region, and thus probably the interest of parents for diagnosis of a developmental disorder in their children. Portugal is more homogenous and the study was made on a much larger scale ; furthermore the peak of autism is reached in the Azores, in a peripherical region where the expected level of education is lower than average.

The main causal mechanism for autism / ADHD would certainly be absorption of uranium / thorium/ radon / other radioactive isotopes (radium 224 for instance) by the parents, especially in water, absorption in the intestines from which it enters the blood, and can then be carried around everywhere in the organism, including in the gonads from where it can affect the gamets with alpha particles. Very low doses of alpha particles are enough because one single alpha particle is very heavy and has a significant cinetic energy, more than 4 megaelectronvolts generally. The carcinogenic effect of a few centigrays of alpha particles has been demonstrated (Iyer Lehnert 2001). The alpha particle will need to go through some microns of matter before dissipating the bulk of its energy so this is perfect for crossing cell walls (the Bragg curve shows that). It can thus easily affect the DNA content or other elements of the phenotype. This explains clearly the elevated autism levels in Lisboa in spite of the low levels of radon in the air.

Autism is correlated with schizophrenia and uranium mines / deposits correlate VERY WELL with schizophrenia in Finland. Autism is also correlated with Down Syndrome and Down Syndrome is as well correlated with natural radioactivity levels. (statistics are more reliable since it is easy to diagnose the Down Syndrome)

I insist that the link is with URANIUM in the ground, CLOSE to the ground, from which it can easily contaminate WATER SOURCES, so the usual aerial radon stat / estimated dosis / uranium in the ground via ICP MS data should not be followed. See the GTK map available on the Net, look for the URANIUM DEPOSITS (with geological interest i.e. easily extractable), they correlate VERY WELL. Only one deposit outside of the area, in the south.



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11 May 2017, 6:48 am

A word of caution: correlation does not equal causation.



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13 May 2017, 4:49 pm

Stoic0209 wrote:
A word of caution: correlation does not equal causation.


I insist on the causal link : alpha particles are very energetic. This means they have a strong cinetic energy. Alpha emitters are able to travel everywhere in the body through blood, the lymphatic system and nerves. They will penetrate gonads and affect the human semen, masculine or feminine, and the energy will damage the DNA, by for instance deleting some parts of it. That's in my view a major cause of mutations in all species.

This is OBVIOUSLY very important because it REINFORCES the hypothesis of a genetic causality for autism spectrum disorders, and also for other mental disorders (see again Finnish case - and for instance in their survey of autism in Finland, Kielinen M1, Linna SL, Moilanen I. Eur Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 2000 Sep;9(3):162-7 seem to have targeted Northern Finland for their case study).



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13 May 2017, 4:59 pm

FlorentPirot secretary of Pyrophor wrote:
Article with LINKS available on assopyrophor dot org (posted 8th of May)

Samira Alaani, pediatrist and neonatalogist in Fallujah, has noted a very strong increase in autism and ADHD since 2004 in the city (extensively bombed by the US in 2003 – 2004 and known for record levels of birth defects, less for its peak of Down Syndrome cases). This confirms really well the correlation observated from a very extensive survey of autism in Portugal (on more than 332 000 children) which shows that the levels of prevalence are much more elevated in the Azores (where the autism ratio is the highest), in the Center and in Lisboa than in Algarve. Extremely elevated levels of radon have been recorded in the Azores, and natural radioactivity is higher in the Center of Portugal and in the West of Spain, where the Tejo river takes its source (it is an important source for tap water in Lisboa ; water can carry radon and uranium / thorium as well as all their decay chain in dissolved form). The most important pumping station of Lisboa is in Castelo de Bode, Tomar, so water coming from the radon-rich Guarda region is distributed in the capital.

This also could be confirmed by autism prevalence surveys in the US, for instance the CDC data ; for instance it is well known that the lowest level of autism in the country is found in Alabama (very low radon level), and Utah has a very elevated level, as well as Minnesota and Maine, which are three States with very elevated radon levels. Of course it is more difficult to draw conclusions from an aggregation of diagnosis from various clinicians, in a country where the average level of education is not the same in each region, and thus probably the interest of parents for diagnosis of a developmental disorder in their children. Portugal is more homogenous and the study was made on a much larger scale ; furthermore the peak of autism is reached in the Azores, in a peripherical region where the expected level of education is lower than average.

The main causal mechanism for autism / ADHD would certainly be absorption of uranium / thorium/ radon / other radioactive isotopes (radium 224 for instance) by the parents, especially in water, absorption in the intestines from which it enters the blood, and can then be carried around everywhere in the organism, including in the gonads from where it can affect the gamets with alpha particles. Very low doses of alpha particles are enough because one single alpha particle is very heavy and has a significant cinetic energy, more than 4 megaelectronvolts generally. The carcinogenic effect of a few centigrays of alpha particles has been demonstrated (Iyer Lehnert 2001). The alpha particle will need to go through some microns of matter before dissipating the bulk of its energy so this is perfect for crossing cell walls (the Bragg curve shows that). It can thus easily affect the DNA content or other elements of the phenotype. This explains clearly the elevated autism levels in Lisboa in spite of the low levels of radon in the air.

Autism is correlated with schizophrenia and uranium mines / deposits correlate VERY WELL with schizophrenia in Finland. Autism is also correlated with Down Syndrome and Down Syndrome is as well correlated with natural radioactivity levels. (statistics are more reliable since it is easy to diagnose the Down Syndrome)

I insist that the link is with URANIUM in the ground, CLOSE to the ground, from which it can easily contaminate WATER SOURCES, so the usual aerial radon stat / estimated dosis / uranium in the ground via ICP MS data should not be followed. See the GTK map available on the Net, look for the URANIUM DEPOSITS (with geological interest i.e. easily extractable), they correlate VERY WELL. Only one deposit outside of the area, in the south.


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13 May 2017, 5:11 pm

There was another thread positing alien abduction was a cause.

Alien encounters have been linked anecdotally to radiation poisoning.

Coincidence - ???

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13 May 2017, 6:25 pm

FlorentPirot secretary of Pyrophor wrote:
Stoic0209 wrote:
A word of caution: correlation does not equal causation.


I insist on the causal link : alpha particles are very energetic.

Meh, they are also pretty much harmless unless you eat the material emitting the radiation...

FlorentPirot secretary of Pyrophor wrote:
This means they have a strong cinetic energy. Alpha emitters are able to travel everywhere in the body through blood, the lymphatic system and nerves. They will penetrate gonads and affect the human semen, masculine or feminine, and the energy will damage the DNA, by for instance deleting some parts of it. That's in my view a major cause of mutations in all species.

Becouse thay are so energetic; they are all out of juice long before they reach the gonads; the biggest danger is to the throat, stomach and lungs (depending on the method of entry).
Even if they did, they would not "delete" parts of the DNA. This might be the driving force for mutations in your view, but those with knowledge of genetic biology know that 80%+ of mutations are copying errors.

FlorentPirot secretary of Pyrophor wrote:
This is OBVIOUSLY very important because it REINFORCES the hypothesis of a genetic causality for autism spectrum disorders, and also for other mental disorders (see again Finnish case - and for instance in their survey of autism in Finland, Kielinen M1, Linna SL, Moilanen I. Eur Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 2000 Sep;9(3):162-7 seem to have targeted Northern Finland for their case study).

Nah; with "genetic" link, they mean hereditary, not simply "caused by mutations in DNA", the latter is obvious.
Simple correlation is not even enough to warrant further investigation, you need more that that.



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13 May 2017, 7:38 pm

izzeme wrote:
Simple correlation is not even enough to warrant further investigation, you need more that that.

Before HIV was discovered there was a correlation between the homosexual and intravenous drug communities and AIDS. Thank God simple correlation was discarded as it not warranting further investigation. Ignaz Semmelweis saw a correlation between hand washing and a drastic reduction in post-op mortality. He didn't know why and the scientific community at the time rejected his ideas as it couldn't be explained. Thank God his simple correlation was discarded as not warranting further investigation. Yes, science is littered with simple correlation being rightly ignored.



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14 May 2017, 7:49 am

Chichikov wrote:
izzeme wrote:
Simple correlation is not even enough to warrant further investigation, you need more that that.

Before HIV was discovered there was a correlation between the homosexual and intravenous drug communities and AIDS. Thank God simple correlation was discarded as it not warranting further investigation. Ignaz Semmelweis saw a correlation between hand washing and a drastic reduction in post-op mortality. He didn't know why and the scientific community at the time rejected his ideas as it couldn't be explained. Thank God his simple correlation was discarded as not warranting further investigation. Yes, science is littered with simple correlation being rightly ignored.

What i meant is that you would also need with a (testable) explanation for said correlation.
AIDS being more common in homosexual communities was indeed a fact, but there also was the explanation of "they have more unprotected sex, with more partners"; which was testable.
"God hates fags" is not testable, and neither is "i just think so", so those versions of correlations are ignored.

In science, you need to have something to test before people will start testing it.



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29 May 2017, 2:31 pm

izzeme wrote:
Becouse thay are so energetic; they are all out of juice long before they reach the gonads; the biggest danger is to the throat, stomach and lungs (depending on the method of entry).
Even if they did, they would not "delete" parts of the DNA. This might be the driving force for mutations in your view, but those with knowledge of genetic biology know that 80%+ of mutations are copying errors.
Nah; with "genetic" link, they mean hereditary, not simply "caused by mutations in DNA", the latter is obvious.
Simple correlation is not even enough to warrant further investigation, you need more that that.


They are not "out of juice long before reaching the gonads" as there is a long latency depending on what is ingested / inhalated : for instance lead 210 from radon 222 will need 22 years to have 1/2 chance of disintegrating. But then the polonium 210 that follows will throw its alpha particle more quickly.

Genetic means hereditary indeed but at some point you can have for instance a copying error caused by the cinetic impact of a particle.

For all of you here, you can find link to my paper on my Academia.edu webpage