Best country to live for adults on the spectrum

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28 Apr 2014, 2:41 am

I've been thinking about this a bit lately, and I want to know, where is the best country to live if you're an adult on the autism spectrum? Where can you find the best support, organizations, specialists, jobs, etc tailored to aspies/auties?



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28 Apr 2014, 2:49 am

I think that's going to depend on what your interests & values are, the environment you prefer, language, culture, food, government structure, support services desired or required.. etc. Any country on Earth is probably PERFECT for one aspie or another.

Me, I like where I live on the best coast of BC. I'd never move to Alberta-country. :P


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28 Apr 2014, 2:54 am

I was just going to ask this... hope there will be some good answers. I'm also interested in best states in the US. I'm inclined to think the states on the west coast are probably the best.



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28 Apr 2014, 2:56 am

Another way of asking would be... in what countries do they most celebrate diversity? because the more openminded a society is to diversity, then more accepting they are likely to be of neurodiversity as well.



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28 Apr 2014, 3:05 am

I was just thinking though, is Canada better than the US for aspies? Is the US better than Canada for aspies? (highly doubt it due to the culture and healthcare system though :P) Is the UK better? Is Sweden better? Is Switzerland better? Is Japan better? I just want some opinions.



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28 Apr 2014, 4:01 am

I don't know which would be the best. Turning the question around, which countries are likely to be the worst?

There are some initiatives in Europe - SAP in Germany for example - that actively seek to recruit ASD people as employees. There are some similar initiatives in Denmark.

In the Western world, the best countries must be those that have respect for difference and diversity. The worst the ones that disrespect difference and oppress minorities, in a culture ruled by political attitudes that pretend "it's all level playing field". There is no level playing field. Never has been, probably never will be.

I don't know that a "best country" even exists, for us.



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28 Apr 2014, 4:24 am

Scandinavia perhaps? They seem to be quite advanced in this sort of thing.. also nature is always a plus



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28 Apr 2014, 6:55 am

Scandinavia or New Zealand. Im going to go against the grain and say basque country might be worth investigating. It has one of the deepest seams of history and culture of any region and is just as impressive as the aforementioned.

http://christineinspain.com/what-i-love ... e-country/

The criteria you need to judge a country will probably be as follows:
diversity: if a country has a reputation for racial intolerance (holland for instance or france) people will be just as likely to be capable of intolerance towards other differences.

natural beauty: a must for most aspies

population: the lower the better for obvious reasons

crime rate: well duh though look at things like the existence of poverty stricken regions as that creates desperation and thus crime. governments manipulate crime fiures expertly


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28 Apr 2014, 7:44 am

I think it would depend on the language or languages spoken in these countries.
For example, when speaking Vietnamese, you have to say a word in a particular way to convey its meaning or what you wish it to mean. In other words, the Vietnamese language has the same words for many different things. Its how you say the word that changes its meaning. This may be difficult for those who speak in a monotone. It's not a matter of just living there, you have to be able to communicate. You clearly don't want to offend. Also, an aspie or autie may wish to live where their condition is understood and accommodated so you may obtain work or find helpful organizations and support groups if needed. A country that also has a predominate religion that upholds respect for the human being regardless of what differences they have is an important point to ponder as well.



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28 Apr 2014, 8:01 am

Probably in a progressive society with low population density--Scandinavia would fit the bill.

The US could be a horrible place for Aspies--except for the "artsy" parts of cities

Canada would presumably be somewhat better than the US because of its healthcare system, its lower population density, and its somewhat more progressive society.

Can't say about the other nations of the "first world."

The "second" and "third" worlds: FUGHETTIBOUTIT! (in a negative sense)



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28 Apr 2014, 8:01 am

Switzerland, everything there is so formal and they have rules for everything right down to which day you can run your washing machine. It's aspie heaven because it removes so many of the variables.


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28 Apr 2014, 5:52 pm

Eccles_the_Mighty wrote:
Switzerland, everything there is so formal and they have rules for everything right down to which day you can run your washing machine. It's aspie heaven because it removes so many of the variables.


Wouldn't be heaven for me. I don't WANT rules dictating when I can and can't run my washing machine, or other silly things like that. :P Remember, not all aspies like rules.



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28 Apr 2014, 6:50 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Eccles_the_Mighty wrote:
Switzerland, everything there is so formal and they have rules for everything right down to which day you can run your washing machine. It's aspie heaven because it removes so many of the variables.


Wouldn't be heaven for me. I don't WANT rules dictating when I can and can't run my washing machine, or other silly things like that. :P Remember, not all aspies like rules.


Most aspies seem to like order though I tend to switch between order and chaos fairly rapidly :lol: problem is with having rules IMPOSED upon you. If Swiss rules and regulations make it impossible to follow your own routine it will be hell on earth. If for example there is a ban on cooking more than once during the evening my entire fasting/eating schedule would be upended which would be frustrating and which would totally rearend the structure of my life.


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28 Apr 2014, 7:44 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Probably in a progressive society with low population density--Scandinavia would fit the bill.

The US could be a horrible place for Aspies--except for the "artsy" parts of cities

Canada would presumably be somewhat better than the US because of its healthcare system, its lower population density, and its somewhat more progressive society.

Can't say about the other nations of the "first world."

The "second" and "third" worlds: FUGHETTIBOUTIT! (in a negative sense)


Scandinavia is extremely conformist. Quirky people need not apply. I think every single job ad I've seen here calls for 'outgoing team-players' and the like. Most people are very ignorant about autism and think it's a mental illness; unsurprisingly, the unemployment (and underemployment) rate for AS people is sky high.

Someone mentioned companies here that actively recruit autistic people. Yes, there are a few of them, the ones I know were founded by parents to autistic professionals who probably got fed up seeing their now adult children closed out from the job market.



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28 Apr 2014, 9:00 pm

Is middle-earth a country cause I think the elves and hobbits might be receptive of us, especially the hobbits, they'd drag us to one of daily festivals and make us socialize 24/7. The elves might just pat us on the heads and wonder whats wrong with us while they cry and write poetry.



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28 Apr 2014, 9:24 pm

binaryodes wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Eccles_the_Mighty wrote:
Switzerland, everything there is so formal and they have rules for everything right down to which day you can run your washing machine. It's aspie heaven because it removes so many of the variables.


Wouldn't be heaven for me. I don't WANT rules dictating when I can and can't run my washing machine, or other silly things like that. :P Remember, not all aspies like rules.


Most aspies seem to like order though I tend to switch between order and chaos fairly rapidly :lol: problem is with having rules IMPOSED upon you. If Swiss rules and regulations make it impossible to follow your own routine it will be hell on earth. If for example there is a ban on cooking more than once during the evening my entire fasting/eating schedule would be upended which would be frustrating and which would totally rearend the structure of my life.


THIS. I like order and routine, as long as it's MY order and routine, not something someone else is imposing on me.