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midas_touch
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01 Jan 2017, 11:28 am

4 months ago I tried to hang myself but the curtain rail broke. At times I can't take this life anymore and although I don't constantly feel suicidal, my life is never particularly happy.

I haven't had close friends that lasted anything more than a week or two for 15 years. I've been consistently rejected by women I romantically want for 15 years too.

It's hard to get it right on your own sometimes. I think the option for an assisted suicide should be there. As if my pain from romantic rejections isn't enough, then people pick on me too. In bars, in social groups, at college.

I think I can see nothing's ever going to change.



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01 Jan 2017, 12:18 pm

Well talk of suicide isn't exactly something that is going to attract people into your life. If you're constantly pessimistic and down on yourself, then being alone is an inevitable outcome.


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01 Jan 2017, 12:23 pm

Fraser_1990 wrote:
If you're constantly pessimistic and down on yourself, then being alone is an inevitable outcome.


This. Develop a life that you enjoy living and everything else will fall in to place.


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01 Jan 2017, 1:17 pm

I'm going to try to stop thinking about suicide. :) I think there's still hope for me to get the woman of my dreams. Life is a gift.



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01 Jan 2017, 2:09 pm

midas_touch wrote:
I'm going to try to stop thinking about suicide. :) I think there's still hope for me to get the woman of my dreams. Life is a gift.


That's wonderful news! Good on you, and good luck! :D


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01 Jan 2017, 2:40 pm

midas_touch wrote:
I'm going to try to stop thinking about suicide. :) I think there's still hope for me to get the woman of my dreams. Life is a gift.


Even if that does happen being in a relationship wont necessarily fix your depression and suicidal feelings. So even if that is the case I'd still recommend working on improving your mental health.


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01 Jan 2017, 3:03 pm

https://www.deathwithdignity.org/states/colorado/

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2 ... 054_01.pdf

I think you need a terminal illness or I would be on my way to Colorado. Maybe they will amend it at some point, but it is a slippery slope. Mixing a profit driven health care system and disenfranchised people against an oligarchy is a recipe for disaster.


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01 Jan 2017, 4:47 pm

I would see a doctor, but not to help you die. You need to have a discussion about the issues in your life and seek counseling. I was where you were five years ago, feeling as though nothing would ever get better and that I was headed toward death. However, things began to really turn around for me beginning in 2015. I agree with those who said that constant talk of death will never attract you to people. I hope you can get help and begin focusing on life and developing your interests.



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01 Jan 2017, 10:18 pm

voidnull wrote:
Fraser_1990 wrote:
If you're constantly pessimistic and down on yourself, then being alone is an inevitable outcome.


This. Develop a life that you enjoy living and everything else will fall in to place.


I also agree. If you live a life that you enjoy, you won't feel the way you do.


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01 Jan 2017, 10:21 pm

I don't believe in euthanasia and assisted suicide. I don't want to be told that it's my duty to die because I have a disability.


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01 Jan 2017, 10:30 pm

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I don't believe in euthanasia and assisted suicide. I don't want to be told that it's my duty to die because I have a disability.


It would be for those that no longer want to live. Why not allow an individual the choice? You choose life, no one is telling you, you can't. The danger is someone making that choice for you because it's beneficial for shareholders etcetera.


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01 Jan 2017, 10:39 pm

whose life is it, anyways?



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02 Jan 2017, 5:56 pm

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I don't believe in euthanasia and assisted suicide. I don't want to be told that it's my duty to die because I have a disability.


There are measures in place (wherever euthanasia is legal) to prevent people from being forced to die. It is only available to people with terminal illness, as a means of alleviating the suffering caused by a lingering death. Candidates need to be able to make their own rational decisions, and undergo extensive counselling first to ensure that it is what they truly want. The choice for euthanasia needs to be based on the individual alone, with no consideration for the desires of the family or others. It is not about killing off those with disabilities.

That said, I do take your point. It would be terrible to be pressured by others to die simply because the means are legally available; however, I do support euthanasia for people who are dying in a painful way, and wish to die to prevent more suffering. I do think that suicide should be prevented if possible, because it is a waste of a person's potential life. I am not religious (atheist), so I don't believe that suicide is morally wrong, just that there is nothing after death, so a person should not lightly divorce themself from their only conscious state. If a person is dying anyway, I believe that it can be easier and less traumatic for them to be able to control their death so as to alleviate further pain.

I hope that this is not insensitive or upsetting. I apologise that I am not adept at tempering my expression; this is just my opinion and I mean no disrespect for anybody.


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02 Jan 2017, 11:32 pm

I have sought solitude, natural beauty, and physical challenges. I have contemplated the very-real possibility that I could die, and no help would come. Being far under water, or high on a mountain, is still not as daunting as when you are surrounded by tens of thousands of indifferent people, with everything they could ever need.

It is also possible to make peace with that kind of isolation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/magaz ... o-die.html
https://www.inverse.com/article/18677-i ... ellen-page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martian_(film)

I see indie people, without jobs, acceptance, or even stable health, deciding that life can go on, without those things. They develop their own customs and routines, independently. (In isolation, they sometimes become a little quirky, but are still confident.)

I'm sorry, but, if you thought that a curtain rail would hold the weight of a grown person, you were being impulsive, or melodramatic, but certainly not rational.

Speaking bluntly--
To see things in a positive light may never occur to you, naturally. Ever. You might have to force yourself do it, continually, habitually, and by rote.

Nice things, in life, might never come to you, as a matter of luck. Your struggles may never be successful, but you can die, trying and hopeful. I have projects to keep me pre-occupied and personal things that I like. Business ideas. Am not presently in much of a position to promise anyone anything, as in the power of positive thinking. But, what is a better way to face your situation.

I saw something terrible, just last night, and I can be sincerely mortified.

Whether I am worn out by exposure or somebody kills me, I am not going to die of learned helplessness.



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02 Jan 2017, 11:40 pm

FandomConnection wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I don't believe in euthanasia and assisted suicide. I don't want to be told that it's my duty to die because I have a disability.


There are measures in place (wherever euthanasia is legal) to prevent people from being forced to die. It is only available to people with terminal illness, as a means of alleviating the suffering caused by a lingering death. Candidates need to be able to make their own rational decisions, and undergo extensive counselling first to ensure that it is what they truly want. The choice for euthanasia needs to be based on the individual alone, with no consideration for the desires of the family or others. It is not about killing off those with disabilities.

That said, I do take your point. It would be terrible to be pressured by others to die simply because the means are legally available; however, I do support euthanasia for people who are dying in a painful way, and wish to die to prevent more suffering. I do think that suicide should be prevented if possible, because it is a waste of a person's potential life. I am not religious (atheist), so I don't believe that suicide is morally wrong, just that there is nothing after death, so a person should not lightly divorce themself from their only conscious state. If a person is dying anyway, I believe that it can be easier and less traumatic for them to be able to control their death so as to alleviate further pain.

I hope that this is not insensitive or upsetting. I apologise that I am not adept at tempering my expression; this is just my opinion and I mean no disrespect for anybody.


Taking one's life is a very difficult thing to do. In 39 years I have only managed 1 attempt but have spent countless hours thinking about it. I would venture to guess, it is much easier to take someone else's life than your own. The instinct to survive is very powerful.


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02 Jan 2017, 11:50 pm

I believe that assisted suicide should be their for those that are terminally ill, severely physically handicapped in a sense of being completely locked in their own bodies and unable to move and for those that have an illness that would be long term and are incurable but since medical treatment and technology is advancing all the time, perhaps this option wouldn't be needed in the future. Which could be a positive thing!

I believe everyone should have the right to an assisted suicide but the patient will have to sign consent forms and take the medication themselves and film themselves given permission, they have to willingly say that they're taking their life so then it will be documented and no one can then be sued or in breach of the terms and conditions.
Also many people get assessed and speak to counsellors before they make such a decision!

Trouble is with assisted suicide, this legal right could be abused. Especially if someone didn't consent to it nor was in the right frame of mind.

If someone was severely depressed and suicidal, unfortunely unless they get the right kind of help and support, they often take their own lives, if they're that willing to kill themselves, they would do it no matter what. Same goes for anyone that is dying or in pain and suffering, if this option isn't available to them, they might take matters into their own hands.

I hope you're ok and no in a bad place, if so then I hope you'll receive the help and support that you'll need.
As for assisted suicide, like you, I believe the option should be their for those that need it and it should be a human right. No one wants to live a life full of suffering and pain.