Being of two minds and internally conflicted!

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How often are you of two minds before a conclusion?
Often 43%  43%  [ 12 ]
Often 43%  43%  [ 12 ]
Sometimes 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Sometimes 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Few times 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Few times 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I don't know 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
I don't know 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
I don't care 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I don't care 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 28

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17 Jun 2005, 6:52 pm

1)...The Question?

How does your "I feel" and "I think" effect
you? and.....When does it come full circle
to conclusion?

2)...Statements by Ghosthunter!

To begin my thoughts, I must say thankyou
folks at wrongplanet who may or may not
always agree with my views. I am of 2 minds.
A consciencious side!(Wheat), and A "let's get
the f**k out of here" side!(Frosting). I have
often exhibited my view in solid view and
may have stepped on you toes, so thanks
for listening, responding and understanding
me! :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: 8O :D
Or at least trying to.

Ghosthunter and change wrote:
I am stubborn. I have no good memories
worth staying in San Francisco. I know it
will be hard to find another job elswhere
but I can't be in a situation where 10-15
hours at Quizno's. It will not alway pay the
rent. I am scared!! !! !! !! You heard it!
I am scared to leave, but change is so
hard for me. I have learned to let go
of my "house of pain and suffering", and
the "house of frivelous compensation, or
spending " to fill this void, thus further
imprisoning me here from within being
in San Francisco.

The money is ready for travel, and is not
intended to subsidies Quizno's and when
the hours drop to 10 hours a week I am
just as screwed to stay here. It is just too
expensive. I am scared to leave because
I have never made such a brave and scary
move under such right conditions.

I want to give John and Li Lon their 2 weeks
notice, but what if I don't find another job
and get stranded somewhere else.


Ghosthunter in Wheat mode wrote:
One mind:
Stay, though I have no love being here.
It is practical, but I don't see long term
housing affordable, and school here
emotionally feasable. I have no love
and what is holding me back.


Am I not being brave by not being bold?

Ghosthunter in Frosting mode wrote:
Another mind:
GO!! !! ! NOWW!! !! !! And this has been nagging
me for the 2 weeks at the "Global Village
Hostel". I have a paycheck next Friday
that can be a 2 week notice attached to it.


I am scared! I can help others, but can I
help myself :oops: :oops: :oops: :? :oops:

I don't know how to feel and react! God and
Goddess give me courage in making this letting
go a positive experience! Bless-it-be!

A Poem wrote:
Burn! Burn! be the the tree that rots.
Days of summer gone have cause much
distraught and grief as the leaves wilted
in fires bend.

Downed be the forest of pain and new is
grass not to be stained in life's displeasure
of grief and loss.

Stand alone tree fall as you must, and
the axer you must trust for he is your
guide in things that were, and the wind
will decide where the tree falls and
newness or decay may show.

Bless be the child golden of nights motherly
moon as she chrisened it with life. Bless
be the bright rays of father light and sky a
as he sired the fruit that only golden can
come through. I stand alone in this tree
and soon must come down. Where be this
child golden to hit the ground.

Bless be you guidance and wisdom mother
goddess and father skye. Bless be your
your harbouring moon that guides me in
my darkness that others are too see.
Bless be you nuturing spark father skye
that allow me to spark inspiration in others
and sometimes me.

Bless be my safe journey to a new home!


3)...The Question Repeated!

How does your "I feel" and "I think" effect
you? and.....When does it come full circle
to conclusion? :oops: :roll: 8O



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17 Jun 2005, 9:47 pm

I wish I could be there. I wish I could help with more than words on a computer screen. This strikes so close to home it frightens me.

Don't doubt your courage. You've come this far with very little help. That's enough to demonstrate your bravery, whatever you do now. Your heart already knows what needs to happen. It's not cowardice to give your "wheat side" a little time to understand and prepare to make the jump.

Ghosthunter to Pyraxis wrote:
ENACT IT, not just bleed it.


You know that advice must be good because you said it to me when you were in solid view. If you can help me, I believe you can help yourself.

Ghosthunter wrote:
I don't know how to feel and react!


Don't try to force yourself to feel a certain way, that only leads deeper into confusion. Even if you can't see anything else clearly, fear can give you the only clue you need to find the answer. Do the opposite of what it tells you. That's the best solution I've ever found to the times when my own two modes were screaming opposite things.

Ghosthunter wrote:
How does your "I feel" and "I think" effect
you? and.....When does it come full circle
to conclusion?


You've already seen some of my own answer to this. I can tell you more if it would help - should I?



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17 Jun 2005, 10:31 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:
3)...The Question Repeated!

How does your "I feel" and "I think" effect
you? and.....When does it come full circle
to conclusion? :oops: :roll: 8O


I may be to young to completely understand your situation, or the question. But I'll take a whack at it anyways.

I'm not sure I understand the question, but I know in certain stressful periods a darker side of my mind awakens. You know, that sick, sadestic, vengeful, all around evil part of your mind that normally remains repressed. It goes ignored for the most part. But it's my own internal dialog and my own voice, tough to ignore. Then I'll end up having an internal argument with basically two different personalities trapped in my head: my usual concious self, and an all around evil version of myself usually hibernating in my sub-conscious until I'm really stressed. It's very rare I get stressed out that badly and this evil side of myself only arose for the first time about a year ago, but it's still scary to know what I'm capable of thinking. I don't know what this is called, but I've heard somewhere that split personalities can be a persons way of dealing with stress by dividing it between multiple sides of yourself, this is why I've called it internal split personality.

As for your situation, I don't completely understand it, so I'll just wait to see what other advice your given and use my context clue powers. :P


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18 Jun 2005, 1:58 am

pyraxis wrote:
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I wish I could be there. I wish I could help
with more than words on a computer screen.
This strikes so close to home it frightens me.

Don't doubt your courage. You've come this
far with very little help. That's enough to
demonstrate your bravery, whatever you
do now. Your heart already knows what needs
to happen. It's not cowardice to give your
"wheat side" a little time to understand and
prepare to make the jump.

Ghosthunter to Pyraxis wrote:
ENACT IT, not just bleed it.

You know that advice must be good because
you said it to me when you were in solid view.
If you can help me, I believe you can help
yourself.

Ghosthunter wrote:
I don't know how to feel and react!

Don't try to force yourself to feel a certain
way, that only leads deeper into confusion.
Even if you can't see anything else clearly,
fear can give you the only clue you need to
find the answer. Do the opposite of what it
tells you. That's the best solution I've ever
found to the times when my own two modes
were screaming opposite things.

Ghosthunter wrote:
How does your "I feel" and "I think" effect
you? and.....When does it come full circle
to conclusion?

You've already seen some of my own answer to t
his. I can tell you more if it would help - should I?


Thanks Pyraxis. The time is soon and I have found
that I have been drawn to on of my autism study
books. I read the first chapter that has exposed
some of my ghosts of "behaviours". I want to
leave here re-viewed, not carrying ghosts.

I also needing to consider the folks I will want
to visit on the leisurely part of this journey.
I have never had a real vacation for ages.
The last one was 4 days to Reno, and when
I returned I was laid off and spent 2.5 years
in the house of "pain and suffering". I am now
losing tolerance for San Francsico and Quizno's
and must make successful conclusions.

I hope to see John get his 2 week notice
by this Sunday. Thus I will have 2 weeks
rent paid by Quizno's, pickup my final
paycheck in July, and thus say goodbye to
San Francisco. I will also thank John for
outing me of my autism ignorance that came
after and during late "house of pain and
suffering". I have many chapters to go
in my book review.

I am also glad to have the folks at WrongPlanet
to travel with me through my computer. I would
of never of found you folks if it weren't for John
(Quizno's) and the "house of pain and suffering".

I want to spend at least 2 weeks for me and
no strings attached. I fought a good fight down
here in San Francisco and this warrior wants
some quality time, and it has been partially
found due to John from Quizno's and you folks
at WrongPlanet. Thanks! I hear a few more
chops at this tree coming!
 
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Post subject: Re: Being of two minds
and internally conflicted!
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Ghosthunter wrote:
3)...The Question Repeated!

How does your "I feel" and "I think" effect
you? and.....When does it come full circle
to conclusion?

I may be to young to completely understand
your situation, or the question. But I'll take a
whack at it anyways.


And for that, I thankyou for this courage to
do so!

Sarcastic_ wrote:
I'm not sure I understand the question, but I
know in certain stressful periods a darker side
of my mind awakens. You know, that sick, sadestic,
vengeful, all around evil part of your mind that
normally remains repressed. It goes ignored
for the most part. But it's my own internal dialog
and my own voice, tough to ignore. Then I'll end
up having an internal argument with basically two
different personalities trapped in my head: my
usual concious self, and an all around evil version
of myself usually hibernating in my sub-conscious
until I'm really stressed. It's very rare I get stressed
out that badly and this evil side of myself only arose
for the first time about a year ago, but it's still scary
to know what I'm capable of thinking.



What kind of evil? Vengeful? Negative? thoughts?
come to this space.....And have you ever inacted
them before?


Sarcastic_ wrote:
I don't know what this is called, but I've heard
somewhere that split personalities can be a
persons way of dealing with stress by dividing
it between multiple sides of yourself, this is why
I've called it internal split personality.


That is correct! What is your other "split" like?
Sarcastic_ wrote:
As for your situation, I don't completely understand it,
so I'll just wait to see what other advice your given and
use my context clue powers.


And thanks for this stab! I hope to hear from you
about these thoughts!

Sincerely,
Ghosthunter



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18 Jun 2005, 2:09 pm

Quote:
1)...The Question?

How does your "I feel" and "I think" effect
you? and.....When does it come full circle
to conclusion?


Recently I came to a rather bothering conclusion on the Iraq war.

I would rather not share it with anyone b/c it is truly extremist, but it bothers me a lot, even though I came to it as being probably (if my information is correct) as the only course of action left.

In my mind, I don't see any alternatives. In my heart, I don't want to believe that it is what I want to happen, but I do.

I hope I am wrong, but I know that it is, as things stand with me, the only way I see out. This bothers me.


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18 Jun 2005, 5:36 pm

Most of the time I work off of I think. Rarely however I have the opportunity to remark what I feel. Occasionally I feel has some impact on the conclusion but most of the time it is all I think. I specifically think about why i feel what i feel and build what i think to incorporate i feel to make sense. So I'm rarely ever conflicted about what i feel versus what i think. But there are some issues which i can't work I feel into I think, so occasionally it remains.



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18 Jun 2005, 6:38 pm

<Is a multiboot system>

I have various 'modes' of being. There's:

A core me, that binds the rest together with an underlying framework with such things as morals, self-control and general cognitive facilities.


A manic me, who's very physically energetic, frenetic and fun.

A mischevous me; like the manic me, but more mentally than physically energetic and likes to toy with people.

There's a focused, physical me that comes out when I exercise and is quite grumpy.

My favourite me; a completely (or very close) emotionless me that likes to dream of amazing things, is artistic, creative and feels a sense of connection to the universe.

My least favourite me; an anxious, disturbed, angry me that's overwhelmed by traumatic memories and is brought out by exposure, direct or otherwise, to injustice.

A me that I find somewhat worrying; extremely violent, sadistic and vengeful, feels very powerful physically, but is kept under control by my core me, which hasn't ever lost control so far, despite extreme external provocation. It simmers beneath the surface and taints my thoughts, but not my actions.

Depressed me; a generally crappy state of being that's been my primary state for the past year and has been pretty common before that too.


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18 Jun 2005, 10:20 pm

GH wrote:
That is correct! What is your other "split" like?


The usual me already enjoys messing with peoples minds and is fairly hateful of society in general. The evil me is basically a terrorist trapped in my head, kill this, say that, blow that up. It's like one of those voices in your head that people joke about people having. I think it's a repressed set of beliefs and immoral thinking manifested in a split persona. I'm the kind of person who avoids cursing, excessive violence, and goes to church (etc.). I always have the urge to steal, lie, cheat, etc., but I never give into it. The split me is arrogant, crude, womanizing, and much more sadistic than the usual me. Good thing it usually remains repressed. If it ever took over, I'd probably get arrested. :?


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19 Jun 2005, 2:29 pm

I try not to separate out the Logic and the Emotion since emotion is active in the human brain at all times and is even required to have a thought. Logic cannot be separated from emotion. But I suppose it is generally a lesser emotion when I am feeling overly logical. But I do not prefer to discern the two just because they FEEL different. [/rambling]


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19 Jun 2005, 2:41 pm

I am mostly from the I think philosophy. Such as what I think about the Iraq War etc.