Would you stand up without asking the reason behind it?

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19 Mar 2018, 6:57 am

I would never in a million years do that. Would you?


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19 Mar 2018, 7:34 am

I would stand up but only to leave rather quickly :lol:


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19 Mar 2018, 8:16 am

No. As a being endowed with both intelligence and language, I'd ask the others why they were standing. Isn't that the reasonable thing to do?


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19 Mar 2018, 8:21 am

I would say what the hell is going on while remaining seated.



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19 Mar 2018, 8:30 am

EzraS wrote:
I would say what the hell is going on while remaining seated.


I'd like to think I would speak up and ask wtf is going on but the reality is it would probably freak me out and I'd run away


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19 Mar 2018, 8:41 am

I might stand if I was visiting a different country but not in my own.



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19 Mar 2018, 9:16 am

I would stand if everybody else stood. I wouldn't feel right if I was the only one sitting.

I remember a couple of years ago when I was in a supermarket, I heard an alarm going off, not a door alarm but a fire alarm, and it was loud enough to hear. I wondered if we should all get out but when I looked around I noticed everybody else around me were just ignoring it, so I shrugged and ignored it with them. Then a worker spoke through an intercom saying that there is a fire alarm and that we all need to get out of the building. But if she hadn't have spoken through an intercom, nobody would have left the building. (Don't worry, it was only a fire drill, but even so, the policy in most public places is to exit a building when you hear a fire alarm sounding).

So, yeah, I suppose I'm a sheep. :)


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19 Mar 2018, 9:22 am

look the thing with people is, no matter what you do some will find fault with it...
either you conform, either you don't conform, you ask them why, you don't ask them why...
that's why some people learned the implicit rule to just do like the rest do..
it's like an attempt to avoid "being wrong".

call it sheep, call it whatever you like... people go through all kinds of anxieties in their lives, and sometimes this is just a strategy people follow.

In my terminology, we can view this strategy as (an attempt to) "Resist the risk". Sometimes it's sensible to do it, but the only problem I see with strategy is when the person who follows it, does not make it sufficiently conscious, such as by mentally saying to themselves "I choose to resist the risk". Playing the "Resist the risk" strategy unconsciously, can lead to many negative consequences, such as coming into the habit of playing it without even being very aware of it.
One should note that there can be many ways of playing "Resist the risk". On the same spectrum as "Resist the risk" is also the "Set to get", which could be played in order to obtain certain knowledge about the situation -- such as by asking someone a question, -- where as "Ok no get" would be an approach where one would choose the option not to inform themselves about the knowledge of the situation, after having a[n] [automatic] thought/association about such an action.
The supposed implication (which I conditionally deem to be partially invalid) of "Not asking them & Standing up IMPLIES You're a sheep" is merely a sample projection of one person's mind's inoriginal opinion about their arbitrary standard of behaviour. Behaviour is only behaviour, whereas interpretation of it is on a separate axis.
If such behaviour was chosen by this person unconsciously/semi-consciously (assuming that consciousness and unconsciousness is on a spectrum rather than seen just as black/white) then we could say for such behaviour that if repeated unconsciously by many masses and in different contexts/situations, would not create the most optimal situation for human beings to flourish and would possibly be indicative of lack of individualism in that sample population. To condem it as "sheep behaviour" would be a valid terminology when compared with the sheeps who in analogous situtations choose their behaviour unconsciously.
But to assert some kind of mental superiority just because you are conscious or self-assertive, would be a hypocritical behaviour. Indeed, the person who created the video is probably aiming at raising consciousness. And I think that's great. But we can all find ways in which ANY person doesn't live sufficiently consciously in their lives.

TLDR: Therefore I'm just saying don't judge. Instead, if you can offer creative alternatives, and be kind to one another is good enough. Raising consciousness through such videos is also absolutely great. But to start labeling someone who doesn't choose consciously, would just be a game where you're downplaying someone for your own ego's benefit...
Infact, you judging them for such a behaviour would be hypocritical because you're unconsciously (or without sufficiently conscious awareness of your motives) judging a person for acting unconsciously :!: (see the hypocrisy?)

Anyway,
more can be written, if you want I can.

All the best.



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19 Mar 2018, 10:19 am

I wish I could say that I would remain seated and ask why they got up. But it's highly unlikely that I would.

Most likely I would remain seated and feel uncomfortable, wondering what was going on. I likely wouldn't stand up, but I would feel awkward and look stiffly down.

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I remember a couple of years ago when I was in a supermarket, I heard an alarm going off, not a door alarm but a fire alarm, and it was loud enough to hear. I wondered if we should all get out but when I looked around I noticed everybody else around me were just ignoring it, so I shrugged and ignored it with them. Then a worker spoke through an intercom saying that there is a fire alarm and that we all need to get out of the building. But if she hadn't have spoken through an intercom, nobody would have left the building. (Don't worry, it was only a fire drill, but even so, the policy in most public places is to exit a building when you hear a fire alarm sounding).


Reminds me of this experiment


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19 Mar 2018, 4:13 pm

elsapelsa wrote:
I would never in a million years do that. Would you?


I think I would stand up the first time, because unconsciously you know that "if everybody does something, there should be a reason".
But then I would ask and dig it out crazy until I know the reason behind it. I would ask others, the receptionist, the doctor, everybody. I need logic in what I do.

What surprises me is that the girl says that she was feeling more confortable because she was doing the same as others were doing. I would personally feel utmost uncomfortable doing something without knowing the reason.



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19 Mar 2018, 5:28 pm

The first time, I'd look around confusedly. Second time, I'd probably hesitantly stand. Then I'd keep doing it, probably, because I'd feel too awkward being the only one sitting. But once everyone who was standing up at the tone had left, I wouldn't. I'd ask them why they were standing if it weren't for my selective mutism, but I highly doubt in that situation that I'd be able to say a word.

This is just a guess, if actually put in the situation, it's entirely possible also that I would stay sitting as I tried to figure out what the heck was going on.


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20 Mar 2018, 8:11 am

LaetiBlabla wrote:
elsapelsa wrote:
I would never in a million years do that. Would you?


I think I would stand up the first time, because unconsciously you know that "if everybody does something, there should be a reason".
But then I would ask and dig it out crazy until I know the reason behind it. I would ask others, the receptionist, the doctor, everybody. I need logic in what I do.

What surprises me is that the girl says that she was feeling more confortable because she was doing the same as others were doing. I would personally feel utmost uncomfortable doing something without knowing the reason.


It does all look staged to me.

I also would probably ask the receptionist.

I am trying to think of a real life scenario to compare to.

I guess one is I always used to cross the road at my own discretion but I have noticed heaps of people unconsciously following so now I wait for the light to turn.


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