Low score on empathy AND systemizing?

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25 Sep 2015, 2:00 pm

So I got a 13 on the EQ and a 21 on the SQ... is that common in people with ASD? I know the norm (the norm for aspies) is low empathy and high systematizing but apparently I am "lower than average" at both of them.


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25 Sep 2015, 2:06 pm

i got low scores on both too. probably because the test was a gauge of how much you enjoy systemizing things, and i don't really enjoy anything at all.


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25 Sep 2015, 2:16 pm

I actually say that I would have high empathy-high systematizing.

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25 Sep 2015, 2:33 pm

Yeah, the norm for aspies is low empathy with high systemitizing. But this is a spectrum, of course, and self-report questionnaires are notorious for vague questions with possible answers interpreted too specifically to make practical sense.

Empathy in particular is hard to define with a test in terms of how one approaches everyday life. Scientists are still working to figure out where the neurological basis lies and in some cases if 'empathy' can be quantified. Let alone a basic working definition. Systemitizing, too, at least as Cohen approaches it, covers a vast possible range of functional outcomes that may contradict theoretical definitions.

One major caveat with such tests is that they don't differentiate well between ABILITY and MOTIVATION, as boredome's post implies.

What would place these results in context for me, so far as determining likelihood of a person falling on the spectrum, is whether an IQ test showed strong or weak ability with patterns. While IQ tests have plenty of their own problems, they can in the hands of someone competent sort out one's intellectual strengths and weaknesses. They can get at whether or not a person can systemitize, even if they don't routinely approach the world that way.



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25 Sep 2015, 3:03 pm

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Your Empathizing Quotient is 7. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately".

Your Systemizing Quotient is 56. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have an above average ability for analysing and exploring a system".



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15 Mar 2018, 4:24 pm

Your Empathizing Quotient is 24. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately".


Your Systemizing Quotient is 5. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for analysing and exploring a system".


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15 Mar 2018, 4:49 pm

Your Empathizing Quotient is 30. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately".

Your Systemizing Quotient is 33. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have an average ability for analysing and exploring a system".


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15 Mar 2018, 7:30 pm

Your Empathizing Quotient is 28. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately".

Your Systemizing Quotient is 29. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for analysing and exploring a system".


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16 Mar 2018, 12:07 am

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/EQSQ.php wrote:
Your Empathizing Quotient is 11. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately".

Your Systemizing Quotient is 39. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have an average ability for analysing and exploring a system".

I guess that's pretty much in line with the prediction, that SQ should be higher than EQ for someone with ASD. But I'm surprised that I'm only average for SQ.

I do feel like, for the SQ, it's very much conditional. There are certain things mentioned in the test, like how machines work, that I am extremely analytical about. There are other things, like the names of plants, that I really don't care at all about.

But on the test, unless you're analytical about everything, even things that are of no interest at all to you, you get at most an average SQ score.


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16 Mar 2018, 9:25 pm

I scored surprisingly high on empathy and low on systematizing. I think the low SQ had to do with the fact that I am not particularly tech savvy.



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18 Mar 2018, 4:31 pm

I've taken that test too, and I too got low scores for both.


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18 Mar 2018, 6:48 pm

I got higher than average score on empathy and very low score on systemizing.


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19 Mar 2018, 6:49 pm

Here's a link to the mentioned test: https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/EQSQ.php

My results:

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Your Empathizing Quotient is 27. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately".

Your Systemizing Quotient is 21. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a lower than average ability for analysing and exploring a system".


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19 Mar 2018, 8:33 pm

I took the test and got a "lower than average" score on both as well. The low score on systemizing doesn't surprise me since I hate math and don't care about how machines and technology work in general.

But it asked if as a kid did I like to cut up worms as just to see what would happen! Do they think I'm some kind of a psychopath?! 8O