Probably not autism, but then what is it?
So, let me start off by saying that this post might not make the most sense, it's hard to get things out for me.
Er, so, I'm 17 I guess, just about 18, and there are certain things that I do that make me think that maybe I'm somewhere on the autism spectrum or something with sensory processing disorder, but my number one thing preventing me from really thinking that that's true is that all of this is somewhat new. Say maybe the last few years, and I didn't really have a problem as a child.
Another thing is that I don't think I have any of the social cue issues that are usually the primary "symptom" in even mild autism. Yes, I have social issues, but those are related to social anxiety and general anxiety. Oftentimes I do have some trouble with either interpreting or understanding what people mean online, but that's mostly because it's hard to tell how a sentence is meant over just text, especially with people using abbreviations and not much punctuation.
Kind of related to that, I've always been really terrible with English class and everything relating to it. I am basically incapable of analyzing anything, never been able to. Like when it comes to homework and assignments in English class. And another thing is that I'm completely worthless at trying to... use words basically. I've always been terrible at essays, quite terrible, though I would usually do a little better with stories if it was something I managed to like rather than something I wasn't really into writing. Even just explanations are disasters for me. For example, today we were doing a fun lab for our last chemistry class before break and things were great until I had to answer questions on a paper. While I knew what was happening and all that, I couldn't get anything into proper words or sentences. Same goes for verbal explanations. Occasionally speaking will be easier and sometimes writing will be easier; it really depends. All of this is not new, but I think I little harder now than before because when I was younger there was much less pressure to be as eloquent.
I've been stimming (I guess) a lot in the last few years, particularly in the last year. The only things that I can really say that I did as a type of stim when I was younger I think is that I would rub my feet together (which my dad also does), I enjoyed cuddling with my parents (they're big and squishy), and I also enjoyed rocking motions, but the rocking motions when I was younger was more along the lines of my parents gently rocking me with a hand on my shoulder, or me trying to recreate that when laying down on my side. There may have been some other things too but I'm really not sure. Or at least probably not outside of the realm of regular/neurotypical stimming, like the things I mentioned above.
Now I tend to do a lot more though. I rock back and forth or sometimes side to side, A LOT. And I'll even manage to rock when I'm standing, either by going from foot to foot or just having my torso still rock. I'll also move my torso around in a circle when I'm sitting down, usually on my bed.
I "flap" my hands, but not quite like with a flexion of the wrist back and forth, more like having the wrists bent down and then rotating or shaking them side to side, for lack of a better way of saying it. Kind of like if you're trying to shake water off your hands. Also with tensed hands and wrists I'll quickly move my forearms back and forth, kind of more in the typical "flapping", but just the forearm movement.
I will hum a low note to myself because it feels soothing and the vibrations are nice in my chest. I've also started to do a thing where I lower my head with my chin near my chest then tense up and make a grunt/groan/not really sure how to describe sounds. I also end up grunting or groaning/whining/growling in frustration a lot, without the lowering of the head, just a tensing in the chest.
I also bring my hands near my ears and hold them in fists and tense my arms. Usually in times when I'm not feeling good and I'm frustrated but I can't really do anything or say how I feel and I just have too much going on.
I really like being squeezed and held because the pressure is very even and deep. I've taken to smushing my face against my dad's too.
I bring my hands/arms up to my chest, sometimes crossed, and squeeze while also pressing my face against my hands.
I recently got an amazing plush that is the squishiest thing ever and I absolutely adore it, and I miss it when I go to school. It's fantastic to squish and also has these five bumps on its nose/head (it's an alligator) that I am constantly rubbing my hand over quickly.
There's quite a bit of fidgeting with things in my hands.
When I rock, sometimes it gets quite violent. I only let myself do this when I'm alone in my room though. It can be really forceful, or I'll sit cross-legged on my bed and then rock forward and bounce my head on the mattress. Stuff like that. I also shake my head pretty vigorously.
I've been needing to occasionally take a break from a classroom and go somewhere private and kind of just "stim everything out" for a bit, which usually involves much with hands and tensing and kind of shaking my body and making sounds.
I also read a lot of books over and over; I've realized it's because I find them comforting.
I have some issues with noise, but I'm not sure how "severe". Sometimes a silent or nearly silent room will feel really loud and hurts my ears. When there are many people talking (like in a classroom or something) then I can be okay but then it can also start bothering me a lot. I have a hard time on the bus almost every day. Part of that is being crowded with other humans and most of them being totally disrespectful and not being able to sit without someone encroaching on my seat space. It's also about noise though. Sometimes the bus makes a faint high pitched noise that I can't stand. Also sometimes people talking can bother me. What bothers me a lot though is people chewing gum or eating, and people playing music too loudly. It can be at the point that I still can't block it out with my music playing as loud as it goes. I will say that a part of that is definitely just me though, because I can get annoyed very very easily.
I do have some issues with emotions. I often feel like screaming or raging because of everything going on and just not really being able to express anything. (I never rage or destroy things, though when I'm alone I will sometimes scream into my pillow or blankets.)
Okay so, I realize this is really long. I kind of just wanted to get everything out there to sort of organize my thoughts a little and see what other people think. Obviously, a fair amount of these things can be displayed by neurotypical people too. Especially with most of this only happening in the last few years, I really don't know if it's something like autism or sensory processing disorder. Maybe it's something else entirely. I just want to see what others think. Sorry everyone.
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wish I had something definitive for you other than to ask you if you have ever visited a therapist of some kind? some of the things you mention, resonate with me in the respects of both being on the autism spectrum as well as being dx'ed when young, as schizoid. some will say that's impossible but I am one such specimen. what they both have in common, is either an excess or a lack of neural pruning.
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As you get older social expectations increase and more social skills are required to function in society. So it is possible that your social skills were enough to get by when you were younger but not now.
As auntblabby said if these issues are messing with your life you should see a clinicion and find out what is up with you so you can treat and cope wwith it.
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Where you describe the need to go somewhere private and stim everything out kind of reminds me of having tics. I keep them in when out and about then at home let all the tics out which is a relief.
You've written all this out well but I do know what it's like to have a hard time writing and speaking. Especially when under pressure.
I wish I knew what to say to help absolutely but I think the others here have it right. Seeing someone about your troubles could be of benefit.
No one has ever mentioned anything, aside from my parents sometimes mentioning stuff about emotions and not really expressing them.
I've been to therapists and counsellors for other things, like depression and anxiety stuff, but not much ever came from that because I kind of shut down and don't share anything. I just can't talk about what goes on in my head or with feelings, or when I do want to say something I can never find how.
I think my social issues are just about having anxiety, being an introvert, being shy, and also being scared of what others think. It's not exactly like issues understanding social things, usually just trying to understand the meaning behind things in writing because you can't really tell.
I'm not really sure if I would go see someone about these things (not yet anyway) because I don't think there is really I can do about it I guess.
Ugh I don't remember what else I wanted to say
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"Available online", as in "free"?
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"Available online", as in "free"?
I would have said "free" if it was free to my knowledge. but I did find a clinical account she wrote-
http://www.mugsy.org/wing2.htm
one of her books on amazon-
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/18411 ... HWK55XCGG2
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"Available online", as in "free"?
I would have said "free" if it was free to my knowledge. but I did find a clinical account she wrote-
http://www.mugsy.org/wing2.htm
Ooo, THANKS----I totally copied and pasted it!!
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I guess the main thing I'm trying to figure out is whether it can be autism/SPD if nothing really showed up when I was younger.
I'm sorry. Every time I come to reply, I forget what I wanted to say and then can't say anything of substance after.
It's quite possible that you were exhibiting symptoms and you didn't realise it when you were young. That's what happened to me. I was diagnosed when I was 21, and my mom spotted signs when I was eight or nine, but for myself, I never realised there was anything different about me until I got older. My mom told me about her suspicions concerning my having autism when I was about your age.
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