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armandreyes
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18 May 2018, 9:51 pm

It tortures me, wonder what I(we) would have achieved in life, if I(we)didn't have this damned disease
A Nobel Prize? President of a company? At the very least I would not live with my mother and would instead have a wife



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18 May 2018, 10:22 pm

armandreyes wrote:
It tortures me, wonder what I(we) would have achieved in life, if I(we)didn't have this damned disease
A Nobel Prize? President of a company? At the very least I would not live with my mother and would instead have a wife

First what you have is not disease. What it is a neurological disorder that impairs your social and communication ability.
Second you assume that these are dependent events such as because I have Autism I live with my mother. You're 26 many people your age live with their parents.
What it sounds like is that you are bumming out and comparing yourself to an unrealistic goal or ideal.



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18 May 2018, 10:31 pm

if everything were the same and you were NT instead of AS.

exactly.

actually maybe i would've achieved less.



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18 May 2018, 10:33 pm

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First what you have is not disease. What it is a neurological disorder that impairs your social and communication ability.
Second you assume that these are dependent events such as because I have Autism I live with my mother. You're 26 many people your age live with their parents.
What it sounds like is that you are bumming out and comparing yourself to an unrealistic goal or ideal.

i agree


personally i doubt my life would be any better if i weren't an aspie.

it would probably actually be worse, since i'm pretty sure it was my aspieness that caused one of my significant others to be attracted to me in the first place.


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18 May 2018, 10:44 pm

if everything remained equal and i was NT, then maybe i would've gotten some job in the social sciences or humanities. marketing director. not STEM. undergrad degree.

and i would've been worse at math/physics.

and i would have some friends. although if i still had six out of ten personality disorders, not that many friends.

plenty of NTs are unemployed. and they do not all have a lot of friends.

:D

on the other hand maybe i would've been so social and wasted too much time partying/drugs/alcohol/cigarettes. as to achieve less.

there's no way to know.

and if there were a way, it would not matter, b/c you wouldn't get it anyways



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18 May 2018, 11:06 pm

armandreyes wrote:
At the very least I would not live with my mother and would instead have a wife


A wife (or a husband for that matter) is not a prize you automatically receive for not being autistic.


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18 May 2018, 11:16 pm

armandreyes wrote:
It tortures me, wonder what I(we) would have achieved in life, if I(we)didn't have this damned disease
A Nobel Prize? President of a company? At the very least I would not live with my mother and would instead have a wife

Aye.


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18 May 2018, 11:49 pm

Sandpiper wrote:
armandreyes wrote:
At the very least I would not live with my mother and would instead have a wife


A wife (or a husband for that matter) is not a prize you automatically receive for not being autistic.


Even on Wrong Planet, plenty of posters claim to be married.

Not all NTs are married

Many marriages end in divorce

Not everyone wants to be married



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19 May 2018, 12:16 am

It's even possible that, if you were NT, your goals and priorities would be totally different to what they are now.


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19 May 2018, 12:25 am

Sandpiper wrote:
armandreyes wrote:
At the very least I would not live with my mother and would instead have a wife


A wife (or a husband for that matter) is not a prize you automatically receive for not being autistic.


This.


As for me, I have a PhD and teach at a university level. Would I have been able to do that without super laser vision interests? ....maybe, but maybe not. It's hard for me to even guess, because I don't think I would be myself if I was neurotypical. Being on the spectrum is part of my existence, just like being kind of short. To "not have it" would mean I'm someone else, and I rather like being me.

I think that love, even for ones' self, is very much an act of bravery. As a kid, I'd sometimes go days at a time between hearing positive words said to me, even though I earned words like "unacceptable" and "bad behavior" easily. At some age, I began wondering why I even bothered being around people who don't like me... and so when conflicts arose, I'd just quietly remove myself. I'd go for a long walk through the city until I reached the big wall at the edge of town, then I'd climb over it. It seemed to me that the trees, the frogs, even the insects that sucked my blood didn't care at all whether I was "socially acceptable." Out there, as far as the environment was concerned, I was a perfectly normal mammal. Although people loved to tell me I was "trapped in my own world," spending time looking down on people from trees, or walking for hours in the wilderness, helped me to see normal human societies as these "own worlds" people are wrapped up in. The ability to at times stand comfortably apart from that plane of existence and gaze back is a remarkable thing. It gives a person perspective. It fostered my curiosity and gave me relief from my frustrations. I don't know if this is a quality all people on the spectrum have or not, but I suspect it's not just me.



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19 May 2018, 4:27 am

I am sick and tired of hearing all these stereotypes about NTs. And they all contradict one another too. Some members say NTs are too dumb to get high-paid jobs and so end up as shelf-stackers in a supermarket, then other members say NTs are all so socially adept that they all have high-paid jobs.

Jeez!


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19 May 2018, 5:16 am

You can't change the past, however, the future is still to be determined!



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20 May 2018, 4:07 pm

Autism isn't a disease, at least not to me. In fact, I probably would achieve less if I wasn't autistic.


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20 May 2018, 6:01 pm

Not all NTs win Nobel Prize

Not all NTs work as presidents of companies

Some companies file bankruptcy

:D

If everything were the same except that I was NT, then maybe I would have had more friends. But more than zero is not that many.

But IQ score would have been similar. No Nobel Prize



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20 May 2018, 6:39 pm

I would be making more money. I can all but guarantee that.



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20 May 2018, 6:42 pm

What were the rules of the game again?

I got distracted picturing some posts by a tallskinnyhairybeautifulwoman...

Maybe I wouldn't live at home (who knows?), might not be married, but likely would have dated. Might not have to give up after the second time of someone giving me verbal directions. Might sleep better.

or maybe I'd actually have a bad life.