They wont let me talk the way I want to

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22 May 2018, 3:08 pm

I dont know why but I really dont like speaking in 1st person. When I speak out loud I prefer to use 3rd person. Its a weird preference. But when I do it, people correct me. I dont like that.

I also like to talk about cats a lot and people want me to not. People tell me to shut up.

I almost dont feel like speaking anymore. It is exhausting. People are always saying I do it wrong and that I need to follow certain rules. There is too many to remember. Casual conversations are not fun. Ahhh.


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23 May 2018, 4:29 pm

And yet you are obviously comfortable speaking in the 1st person when you type?
Obviously I don’t know you, your age, or your living situation, but it sounds like you need some real friends who accept you for who you are. Although, it’s possible that some people may try to tell you you are wrong because they care and don’t want you to appear odd in public by using the third person, but they really don’t understand that they are just making things harder for you. Ask them how they define the word ‘wrong’. By whose rules is it wrong? As long as you can make yourself understood, that is the most important thing.



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23 May 2018, 4:52 pm

Ilikemusic wrote:
I dont know why but I really dont like speaking in 1st person. When I speak out loud I prefer to use 3rd person. Its a weird preference. But when I do it, people correct me. I dont like that.

I also like to talk about cats a lot and people want me to not. People tell me to shut up.

I almost dont feel like speaking anymore. It is exhausting. People are always saying I do it wrong and that I need to follow certain rules. There is too many to remember. Casual conversations are not fun. Ahhh.


Yep.

Welcome to life in Hell (the life of an aspie). you're damned if ya don't interact with folks, and you're damned if you do interact with folks( cause every way ya do it is wrong).

My girlfriend observed that in groups I "always hold back and check out what the subject is that everyone is talking about, before jumping in to the convo". I guess sometime way back in my childhood I realized that folks aren't into what I am into, so I always try to figure out whats cool to talk about with that particular crowd before I open my mouth. I probably had some hard knox, but so far back in time that I don't remember them. Still have geeky moments even now.

Don't know what to say except keep plugging away at the art of conversation. Might try to apply your aspie tendencies towards specialized knowledge gluttony to at least one topic that you can use as social "small change". If you can become an expert on cats, then you might try to bone up on say, pop music, or sports, or cars. Then you can have that one arrow in your quiver for conversation if all else fails.



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23 May 2018, 4:58 pm

It can be tedious to listen to someone with idiosyncratic speech patterns and topics. You probably really are annoying to your listeners.

It's best if you refer to yourself in the first person when really trying to communicate, and drop the subject of cats.

But you may use any speech pattern or topic you like when talking to yourself or your toys, imaginary friends, and the like, and also when writing in a journal. Just make sure you are not annoying others when you talk this way.

Now, I know this is not the response you were hoping for. You would rather hear that "they" are wrong for not letting you be yourself. But this is an imperfect, and unfair, world. You will fare better if you don't alienate people. Figure out a non-annoying way to be yourself.


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23 May 2018, 5:24 pm

Yeah. I know my listeners dont want me to talk about that stuff but its a topic I know. I talk to myself a lot too and to my toys


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24 May 2018, 3:43 pm

Tell me more about your speech. Why do you like speaking that way? Is it easier to get out what you want to say when you use third person, or is it a quirk or stim and you like the way it sounds? If the former, it's perfectly fair to explain this to your friends/family and tell them why using first person language is so challenging. I have excellent verbal skills, but I sometimes go completely nonverbal and can't speak at all, or the only things I can say are single words and quotes from TV shows. In times like that, I use a text to speech app on my iPad, because it's easier than trying to force myself to communicate verbally when I'm not in a good position to do so. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you're obligated to if it takes more effort and exertion than it's worth, or than you can sustain.

If it's a stim or quirk, it might be a good idea to do it when you're by yourself, or when you're around people who don't mind. Sometimes I repeat the same phrase over and over again because it sounds good and I like it, but I try not to do that around other people because I know it will drive them crazy.


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24 May 2018, 4:20 pm

I speak that way because its easier to speak that way. Sometimes it sounds too personal to use I. I feel less scared to share my opinions or wants that way. I know, it seems weird. Syd is weird though and its ok.


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24 May 2018, 4:26 pm

I don't think you should talk to your toys in front of people.



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24 May 2018, 4:48 pm

Ilikemusic wrote:
I speak that way because its easier to speak that way. Sometimes it sounds too personal to use I. I feel less scared to share my opinions or wants that way. I know, it seems weird. Syd is weird though and its ok.


Tell folks that back in the 1996 presidential election that you used to work as a Bob Dole impersonator. And that you haven't recovered from it yet! :lol:



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24 May 2018, 5:07 pm

Im only 18 lol


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24 May 2018, 7:59 pm

There are times when I speak in third person as well. Usually it's when I am super insecure and I end up in "primitive speak" mode like a toddler. When I get this way, sometimes what I will do is to not use identifying nouns or pronouns at all. There was one member, those you who remember Kingdom Of Rats, who used to communicate like this in her posts all the time. Rather than saying "I want to do this," she would say, "Want to do this." Sometimes I use that way of communicating as well. When I am in that mode, I also do not talk very much. I just kind of answer questions in a way that does not require me to use those proper nouns or pronouns when I am asked something. That might help you. That way you don't have to talk too much, you can just speak a little bit and it won't freak people out as much when you do.

And if you love to talk about cats, see if you can find a cat club in your area. Maybe you can find one through the local ASPCA. Then you can hook up with other people who love to talk about cats. I am sure they are out there. And as you get more comfortable with talking to people who have a similar interest, you can then slowly try out new topics of conversation with other people and even practice other topics of conversation with cat fanciers. That will help you become more secure and less anxious and your speech patterns may become more diverse and more socially acceptable.


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