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03 Sep 2018, 8:37 pm

Mind blindness is a difficult thing for an aspie. If I feel anxious, than everyone feels anxious. If I feel happy, then everyone feels happy. If I am mad, then everyone is mad...at me!

Then I go into society and the different ways people act baffle me. I could call someone, but if I don't want to talk to someone then no one wants to talk to me. Right? My mind must be right. If I think it's right, then everyone else thinks it's right.

I know enough now to know these thoughts are not really accurate, but it's hard not to fall for them. It makes me feel frustrated sometimes. I know I am not alone so here I am to see if anyone has some responses.



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04 Sep 2018, 4:12 am

This one is tough, and I'm used to having many misinterpretations. Lately I've tried being more direct without being rude, inappropriate, demanding, etc., since I think decent people will see that honesty as a good trait. Then I can also get a better sense of what they're thinking, and they'll like that I ask questions of them. Otherwise I'll just focus on where I have difficulty.



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05 Sep 2018, 1:32 pm

It's a thing of empathie. NT people try to guess your mind by trying to feel like you. If you are happy they feel happy too. Are you angry while looking at them they feel angry too and they think they have to protect themselves from attacks from you. So if you are not angry with them do never look at them angry.



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05 Sep 2018, 4:22 pm

Are you all trying to say that the state of your own minds determines the state of everyone else's minds, or are you trying to say that the state of your own minds influences your own perceptions of the state of other people's minds?


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05 Sep 2018, 4:44 pm

You can focus on work, rest and finally try to fit on a bit of fun and things will often pan out much better. Do you keep busy?



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06 Sep 2018, 1:03 pm

Fnord wrote:
Are you all trying to say that the state of your own minds determines the state of everyone else's minds


That's right. And you simply want to know how other people feel because it determines how they treat you. If someone is looking angry at you may have to defend yourself because he possibly wants to hurt you. Because of this people expect nothing good from angry people and don't like them.



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06 Sep 2018, 1:11 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Are you all trying to say that the state of your own minds determines the state of everyone else's minds
That's right. And you simply want to know how other people feel because it determines how they treat you. If someone is looking angry at you may have to defend yourself because he possibly wants to hurt you. Because of this people expect nothing good from angry people and don't like them.
So you are trying to convince me that you have some special mental ability that allows you to change other people's emotional state any time you want. That is totally bogus!

That's called "Magical Thinking". It's is like when a person is walking down the street when a street lamp suddenly switches off or on, and that person believes that he or she has some magical 'power' over inanimate street lamps, when it is actually a loose connection or a failing component in the street lamp circuitry.

Remember, correlation is not causation.


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06 Sep 2018, 6:20 pm

Fnord wrote:
So you are trying to convince me that you have some special mental ability that allows you to change other people's emotional state any time you want. That is totally bogus!


You got me little bit wrong. People think better of me if I'm looking relaxed or happy than if they do if I'm looking sad or aggressive especially if they don't yet know me and all they know about me is what they just see. It depends on how I am looking at them whether they will trust me or not. Most men will trust me as soon as they look at me and I'm able to read the mind of most men in parts of a second and I nearly always know whether I can trust somebody or not. But I'm quite rational and don't even have such a thing as the empathie to feel like others. That's why most women don't get me especially if they recognize that I'm a little bit better in mind reading than most men are. :mrgreen:



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06 Sep 2018, 6:36 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
Fnord wrote:
So you are trying to convince me that you have some special mental ability that allows you to change other people's emotional state any time you want. That is totally bogus!
You got me little bit wrong. People think better of me if I'm looking relaxed or happy than if they do if I'm looking sad or aggressive especially if they don't yet know me and all they know about me is what they just see. It depends on how I am looking at them whether they will trust me or not. Most men will trust me as soon as they look at me and I'm able to read the mind of most men in parts of a second and I nearly always know whether I can trust somebody or not. But I'm quite rational and don't even have such a thing as the empathie to feel like others. That's why most women don't get me especially if they recognize that I'm a little bit better in mind reading than most men are. :mrgreen:
In that case -- and I do not mean to offend you by saying this -- you seem normal.


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06 Sep 2018, 7:44 pm

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In that case -- and I do not mean to offend you by saying this -- you seem normal.

Nearly, except my lack of emotions and empathie. That's my problem and the reason why I'm trying to read people. But I'm also trying to help people to get rid of their proplems if I can.