HOW be when to smile?
Serious replies only. I need to know exactly how and when to do it. My sister told me to just “smile a lot” at school. So I sat in class smiling the entire class and everyone thought I was crazy. I also tried just walking alone smiling- I think that was wrong too. How and when do you do it? Thank you.
So you're saying you smiled all during class and people thought you were crazy--I'm picturing something like this:
DON'T force it. Like love or farting, it doesn't work forced, and you'll end up lonely or laundering. You'll do fine.
I smile:
When I'm around people I like
When I work customer service, though I prefer a little more businesslike demeanor
When I read the manuscript of that romance novel I'm writing!
while watching comedy movies, especially those of Harold Lloyd (who I think was autistic in real life and sometimes on screen)
When I read a good book,
Listen to some certain records,
Hear a joke I get,
That sort of thing.
I hope you get some serious replies, but honestly, it might be worse for you if you overthought it. I used to never smile because I worried people would think I was a creep. It's fine. Who cares what they think, whether you smile or not.
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Smiles are generally best when they're brief. One or two seconds is enough. You can smile often in a row, but generally a smile must be re-prompted by the events/words/people around you.
When to smile has many variations, and that also varies a lot by culture. I'm in the US. I'm going to assume that you are too, but if you are not, then you will need better advice from someone in your own area. In other cultures, Americans are often seen as smiling too often.
The following examples are typical examples of when to smile:
When meeting someone and saying hello
This also often involves repeated smiling. For instance, Tom might say, "Hello," to Jenny, and she will say, "Hello," back. The two may smile at this point. When they say, "I'm Tom/Jenny," then this can be another moment for a smile.
Moments of similarity
People will also often smile in response to liked information, and when a similarity is shared.
For instance, say Tom has a cat, and Jenny is pleased to learn this. She might respond, "You have a cat?" Then give a smile to show that she is pleased. Perhaps, the smile is held a little longer than usual, as it's okay to maintain a smile while speaking to say something like, "I do too, and she's a Siamese."
When exchanging a polite phrase
If someone says "thank you" or "you're welcome," then smiling is often done.
In the case of thanking, it's to show appreciation.
In the case of acknowledging the thanks, then it's done to be friendly, and to show that the task was not burdensome to you.
If someone says "Welcome, come on in," then smiling is often done for the same reason: to convey that your presence is wanted, and not a problem.
But it's a complicated subject, smiling. People do it very often and in a multitude of situations. Giving advice on exactly when to do it is difficult. However, the general rule is that a smile is given to indicate friendliness when it might not definitely be perceived.
For instance, if you say "you're welcome" with a flat expression to a stranger, then they might not understand that you are trying to be polite, and saying what you mean. Instead of understanding, the person might think that your expression looks annoyed. A resting expression can be interpreted negatively. Thus, the interpretation could become that you were annoyed by having to do whatever task you were just thanked for doing.
To learn more about when people smile, I suggest that you study movies and television shows which have friendly interactions. Even the show literally titled "Friends" might be enough of a case study. I'm not saying to watch that one specifically, as I don't like it myself, but I'm giving it as an example. Any show or movie which shows modern people living their daily lives would work. The point is to watch for smiles and what prompted them. After all, what you are watching is NTs literally showing you how to fake nonverbal signals -- that's the essence of every movement they make while on camera. They are trying to use their movements, including smiles, to portray how their characters feel via nonverbal communication.
But the basic concept behind it all is that when you smile, then other people are giving you a reason to smile in specific interactions, or else you are pleased about something. For example, if you smile at random then someone might ask you why you smiled. There's in inherent idea of cause and effect.
So, a smile is nonverbal communication that conveys your own friendliness or happiness. "Smile a lot" only means to smile when it would be socially appropriate to, to indicate friendliness or when you are pleased by something, but to do so at a frequent rate throughout your day/interactions.
Constant smiling -- without reason or pause -- can be seen as manic, false, and emotionally unstable. This is because no one believes that people are happy every single second of the day. Someone who "smiles all the time" would only be a person who smiles at a high rate, for example. This goes back to needing a reason to smile.
In fact, truly constant smiling is often used to portray creepy characters in films. For instance, there's a line in the (2004) Stepford Wives movie about it, and that's a movie with a horror twist:
- And that's a problem because...?
- Because it's not normal, Walter.
Additionally, a false smile generally does NOT utilize the muscles around your eyes. If you want to improve your social mask, and make the smile convincing, then you'll probably need to practice in front of a mirror. This is probably good to do in general since you're not used to smiling for social reasons. A truly awkward social smile can be worse than not smiling, because it might seem too strained. A good way to start slow is to do small smiles, just slightly turning up the corners of your mouth, and showing no teeth. It's the easiest smile to use.
Also? Even NTs can be bad at smiling, so don't stress too much. Practice will help but you don't need to be perfect at it. Researchers still study smiles, and still try to determine what the best smiles look like, e.g., https://www.popsci.com/how-to-smile/
It can be draining to smile often. However, I think it's good to know in certain situations, which is why I've practiced showing my emotions and using nonverbal cues. I've been told that I look scary otherwise. I think that I have things down well now, but I can still remember and relate to the problem of being told to smile more. Nonverbal language is like a language, but it is possible to learn it with study. And what worked for me was that I mostly just watched people, especially in media, to get the rules down.
I think most people just want to feel acknowledged. Try smiling when you see someone you know from across the room. Just make a brief grin and then go back to normal. This usually works for me.
Sociologists also suggest a small eyebrow raise:
On an unrelated note...

When to smile has many variations, and that also varies a lot by culture. I'm in the US. I'm going to assume that you are too, but if you are not, then you will need better advice from someone in your own area. In other cultures, Americans are often seen as smiling too often.
The following examples are typical examples of when to smile:
When meeting someone and saying hello
This also often involves repeated smiling. For instance, Tom might say, "Hello," to Jenny, and she will say, "Hello," back. The two may smile at this point. When they say, "I'm Tom/Jenny," then this can be another moment for a smile.
Moments of similarity
People will also often smile in response to liked information, and when a similarity is shared.
For instance, say Tom has a cat, and Jenny is pleased to learn this. She might respond, "You have a cat?" Then give a smile to show that she is pleased. Perhaps, the smile is held a little longer than usual, as it's okay to maintain a smile while speaking to say something like, "I do too, and she's a Siamese."
When exchanging a polite phrase
If someone says "thank you" or "you're welcome," then smiling is often done.
In the case of thanking, it's to show appreciation.
In the case of acknowledging the thanks, then it's done to be friendly, and to show that the task was not burdensome to you.
If someone says "Welcome, come on in," then smiling is often done for the same reason: to convey that your presence is wanted, and not a problem.
But it's a complicated subject, smiling. People do it very often and in a multitude of situations. Giving advice on exactly when to do it is difficult. However, the general rule is that a smile is given to indicate friendliness when it might not definitely be perceived.
For instance, if you say "you're welcome" with a flat expression to a stranger, then they might not understand that you are trying to be polite, and saying what you mean. Instead of understanding, the person might think that your expression looks annoyed. A resting expression can be interpreted negatively. Thus, the interpretation could become that you were annoyed by having to do whatever task you were just thanked for doing.
To learn more about when people smile, I suggest that you study movies and television shows which have friendly interactions. Even the show literally titled "Friends" might be enough of a case study. I'm not saying to watch that one specifically, as I don't like it myself, but I'm giving it as an example. Any show or movie which shows modern people living their daily lives would work. The point is to watch for smiles and what prompted them. After all, what you are watching is NTs literally showing you how to fake nonverbal signals -- that's the essence of every movement they make while on camera. They are trying to use their movements, including smiles, to portray how their characters feel via nonverbal communication.
But the basic concept behind it all is that when you smile, then other people are giving you a reason to smile in specific interactions, or else you are pleased about something. For example, if you smile at random then someone might ask you why you smiled. There's in inherent idea of cause and effect.
So, a smile is nonverbal communication that conveys your own friendliness or happiness. "Smile a lot" only means to smile when it would be socially appropriate to, to indicate friendliness or when you are pleased by something, but to do so at a frequent rate throughout your day/interactions.
Constant smiling -- without reason or pause -- can be seen as manic, false, and emotionally unstable. This is because no one believes that people are happy every single second of the day. Someone who "smiles all the time" would only be a person who smiles at a high rate, for example. This goes back to needing a reason to smile.
In fact, truly constant smiling is often used to portray creepy characters in films. For instance, there's a line in the (2004) Stepford Wives movie about it, and that's a movie with a horror twist:
- And that's a problem because...?
- Because it's not normal, Walter.
Additionally, a false smile generally does NOT utilize the muscles around your eyes. If you want to improve your social mask, and make the smile convincing, then you'll probably need to practice in front of a mirror. This is probably good to do in general since you're not used to smiling for social reasons. A truly awkward social smile can be worse than not smiling, because it might seem too strained. A good way to start slow is to do small smiles, just slightly turning up the corners of your mouth, and showing no teeth. It's the easiest smile to use.
Also? Even NTs can be bad at smiling, so don't stress too much. Practice will help but you don't need to be perfect at it. Researchers still study smiles, and still try to determine what the best smiles look like, e.g., https://www.popsci.com/how-to-smile/
It can be draining to smile often. However, I think it's good to know in certain situations, which is why I've practiced showing my emotions and using nonverbal cues. I've been told that I look scary otherwise. I think that I have things down well now, but I can still remember and relate to the problem of being told to smile more. Nonverbal language is like a language, but it is possible to learn it with study. And what worked for me was that I mostly just watched people, especially in media, to get the rules down.
So how come people tell me that I look angry when I’m just sitting around and then tell me to smile? Doesn’t that mean that I should sit there smiling? What should I do with my face while sitting and walking?
It sounds like you probably have another issue that I did/do: an angry-looking resting face.
I found that when people told me that I looked angry at random, and to smile, that then their meaning didn't entirely match their words.
Yes, they thought I looked angry: that part was blunt. I even had a friend tell me that she saw me walking down the hall at school, and was afraid to say hello to me. I had no idea why she felt that way, because I wasn't mad.
The part about smiling to fix how I seemed angry wasn't blunt, though. I realized that people didn't mean "smile more" or even "smile right now." The advice that I got about smiling, for when I was sitting or walking by myself, was just an indirect way to tell me, "you should cheer up."
I'm still not sure why that wording happened to me, or why it seems like the same is happening to you. Maybe, saying the whole thing bluntly -- "you look angry, you should cheer up" -- was too confrontational/demanding for them to say outright? Also, I think that they might have been confused by me, and not have known how I could look "normal." They might've been guessing at what I needed to do, and suggested smiling. I really have no definite, exact idea why they said "smile" instead of "cheer up." It might even be because some people think that smiling alone cheers people up. Or maybe the reason a why is some combination of all of these reasons.
I don't think that I've ever fully fixed this resting face expression problem. I've tried to relax my face, and to make sure that I don't lower my eyebrows into a scowl. However, sometimes, I'm still told that I look angry when I don't mean to be.
Anyway, this is an issue that NT women deal with, too. It's a social norms issue for women.
I tried searching around to see if I could find any articles to explain better or offer solutions, and to also understand the issue better myself. I did find an article on The Independent, and it gives some tips on what can cause a negative impression.
A small forewarn, in case you weren't aware: the nickname for an angry resting face is colloquial and sounds offensive, and the term for it is in the article. (I'm not sure if you're offended by swearing.)
Also please be aware that I have no knowledge about the program that's mentioned in the article, and since the article is 3 years old I doubt that they still want emails. But if you want to read the full article, then the source is here. I'll quote the relevant bits, though:
And how exactly does a piece of software measure contempt in a face?
It’s in subtle signals, like “one side of the lip pulled back slightly, the eyes squinting a little,” Rogers explained.
Or: “It’s kind of a tightening around the eyes, and a little bit of raising of the corners of the lips — but not into a smile,” Macbeth suggested.
The cues are understated, yet the machine detects and interprets them the same way our human brains do, she said. “Something in the neutral expression of the face is relaying contempt, both to the software and to us.”
But there was one big difference, she added. FaceReader, being a piece of software and therefore immune to gender bias, proved to be the great equalizer: It detected RBF in male and female faces in equal measure. Which means that the idea of RBF as a predominantly female phenomenon has little to do with facial physiology and more to do with social norms.
Consider actress Anna Kendrick, who has publicly bemoaned the effect of RBF on her life.
“When she was younger, directors would say, ‘Why don’t you smile more, you need to smile more, you don’t seem like you’re very happy,’” Macbeth said. “That’s something that’s expected from women far more than it’s expected from men, and there’s a lot of anecdotal articles and scientific literature on that.
"So RBF isn’t necessarily something that occurs more in women, but we’re more attuned to notice it in women because women have more pressure on them to be happy and smiley and to get along with others.”
Also, I think that Anna Kendrick's story underlines my prior idea about how the instruction to "smile" can really mean an instruction to "cheer up." She was told to smile more to seem happy, but never mentioned being bluntly told "you need to be happier."