Is it right to victimise someone because of their appearance

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OK, would welcome people's advice on the matter.

Is it right to bully / victimise someone because of their facial features.
I mean, people with autism spectrum disorder can sometimes look a little strange
not sure if that has anything to do with having autism spectrum disorder or not
although the experts say that it isn't anything to do with the disorder

i would say that if the disorder is caused or related to premature birth
then it is possible that premature birth is the reason why some of the people with ASD look a little different

for example, i read that people who have noses that are slightly upturned
who people who are nasty may call pig noses

well, the reason why a high percentage of these people have "pig noses" is because
they were born prematurely

i mean, unless of course the people who have a nose of this shape actually paid to get their nose
to look that shape, then surely the reason why they have this shape of nose was completely out of their control
like skin colour, the colour of your eyes, the colour of your hair (well at least the colour your born with)
is not a choice but simply something that you are born with

so to me, to victimise a person based on physical appearance is prejudice and extremely ignorant
and simply bullying rather than done out of rational reason

It is funny though, as if i were to say that someone was fat, or black or gay
there would be a massive commotion and loads of people would verbally attack me for my bigotry
(and they would be right)

but for some reason it is ok to say pig nose, or big ears, or weirdo eyes.

Sure, some of these things may not be that hurtful, but perhaps being called pig face is.
Especially when the people who say such things seldom have perfect appearances
and often are even worse people in terms of morality or even other character traits

i wonder what peoples opinions are.
thanks

No.

This is the right thing to say. It's hard to get "rational reason" (a very literary redundancy, by the way: bravo!) to line up with taunting anyone over such trivial matters.

At one time I had people pick on me for being Catholic. They were also Catholics. Proof positive that it was not a logical position.

I was once in the seminary studying to become a priest (pre-diagnosis) and they kept commenting on my RBF. "Resting B---h Face," because apparently paying attention to someone talking and not staring all round the room is different. I have a face like a Spanish pirate even though I'm USA born of Irish and English extraction.

Other people have fussed that I was too logical. Me? Logical? L O freakin L. If I'm logical then Cyrano de Bergerac is a commonsense anchorman hosting the nightly news. I'm a hopeless romantic. So I guess they're not logical.

And still others have picked on me for using a typewriter. This one was a priest, a friend of mine, and he said it was "odd for someone to try and do like that." I told him he was sorely mistaken, which is "get a life" in history-buff talk. I don't have a typewriter. I have THREE!! !

People will, I believe, pick on anything that is "different." Whatever stands out. On the Model T Ford Club of America forum today there was a thread about theft of early cars and their parts--and many shared hard experiences that people will steal or vandalize anything that seems different.

I hope this isn't happening to you. It would be a good sign that maybe you need to share your philosophical moments with these friends...but if it doesn't work, find some new friends!

Is it right to victimise someone because of their appearance

No, how could one justify such behaviour?

No, it's horrible to be mean to someone because of something they have no control over. The way a person looks is just how they are. It's not some sort of character defect.

It should be obvious that it is not right to victimize someone, period....

Sure. but it is so often happens.
I think that in our modern world, there are now so many laws set up to protect the innocent against discrimination,
for example racial prejudice, being over weight, having a disability.

it's like the bigots and bullies can no longer get away with open bullying about such things
so they look for something else that is less common that no one has made a law about yet.

Which to me is perhaps just materialistic, ignorant and unintelligent people's excuse to victimise someone
to ruin them. What i find interesting is that such lower mind tactics of demonising and dehumanising actually appears to work, and the more people who join the angry but ignorant mob, the more easy and acceptable it is.

Why people do such things is perhaps down to other deep rooted causes, perhaps due to jealousy, bigotry,
and perhaps some other destructive emotions that people have let get out of hand.

I think that this can be the case sometimes, people who are perhaps too lazy or perhaps no good at some things, who see others get good, get jealous.

Also, some people, when they see others succeed in life, they get jealous and intentionally sabotage other peoples progress.

I think that in some cases, this is what happens to some high functioning Aspies.
As some of us Aspies have gifts that help us work things out or be very productive in some areas
which may annoy some neurotypicals who are either too lazy or not clever enough to do these things
so the neurotypicals get jealous and then use their superior manipulation social skills to
ruin their victims success, usually with slander and demonization.

Very ignorant, and criminal yep. Unfortunately having the disability known as ASD makes most of us
sitting ducks when this type of thing happens.

But hey, at least we still can do the things we do.
As although it is good to get paid and the recognition (and in some cases fame) for the things we do
actually being able to do the things we do is sometimes the best payment of all
as we need not be jealous as we simple are

The thing is, bullying over all sorts of issues was common and accepted, it's not like that only began once society started viewing racism, sexist, etc as wrong. Bullying and teasing and otherwise abusing other people is one of humanity's oldest pastimes.

No I don't think any of that is right, doesn't mean people won't do it though.

But I do have to admit sometimes I do think bad things about peoples appearance, so I guess it is easy to notice flaws but not so easy to be understanding of them. Even so I would never say a mean thing to someone based on their appearance but admittedly I have had negative thoughts about people based on their appearance.

It is okay if it is done against President Trump.

Otherwise no.

It's still wrong then, although he's in no position to complain when it occurs, and most of the folks doing it and observing it are too fixated on whatever else is being said to realize the hypocrisy of their behaviour. They're wrong when they do it. I've been wrong when I've done it. That said, no amount of heaping up the sins of his enemies can negate his own sins, so I fail to see how this really does more than establish what's already known - his opponents aren't perfect even if many of them are exponentially better than he is.

He's being sarcastic, he doesn't really think that. It just happens to be that making fun of Trump's appearance is socially acceptable in many circles.

It's an eternal go-to, almost a last resort, for those who don't otherwise have anything to criticise in substantial terms.

In the case of the aforementioned Trump it seems particularly absurd given that there are much more important and consequential matters to criticise him over.

Well IDK maybe Trump should just stop dyeing his skin orange. Like we get it Trump you are full of white privilege and pale as a beluga whale and not much less fat than one.

I'm agreeing that it's wrong. I'm just also pointing out how trivial it is when compared to most criticism of Trump.

No, under no circumstances.

Where you live can make a big difference. I have a dear friend who was born with a cleft palate. He went through hell as a child and young man in the "s**thole" (his words) where he was born. He once told me that the numerous surgeries he had between the age of 2 and 16 were nothing compared to what people did to him. After moving in a bigger, much more civilised place, his life changed drastically for the better