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23 Feb 2021, 8:23 pm

Hey all,

Do you experience trust issues with others wether they're nt or not..?

I'm not sure if or how much my trust with others is affected from things that have happened to me like growing up l, poor choices I've made, poor decisions with people I've befriended, etc..?

I find myself incapable of trusting anybody, like literally anybody! And unsure of why exactly and no therapist has aged much in light of what the underlying reason is specifically!

For whatever reason I won't go into detail but I feel like running away from everyone and myself, from my home and all.. depression and sadness seems to be all I am capable of feeling.

Now I must be the only person who feels like this, right.?? :Scratch: :( :?



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23 Feb 2021, 8:27 pm

If anything, I'm TOO trusting....



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23 Feb 2021, 8:45 pm

Danusaurus wrote:
Hey all,

Do you experience trust issues with others wether they're nt or not..?

I'm not sure if or how much my trust with others is affected from things that have happened to me like growing up l, poor choices I've made, poor decisions with people I've befriended, etc..?

I find myself incapable of trusting anybody, like literally anybody! And unsure of why exactly and no therapist has aged much in light of what the underlying reason is specifically!

For whatever reason I won't go into detail but I feel like running away from everyone and myself, from my home and all.. depression and sadness seems to be all I am capable of feeling.

Now I must be the only person who feels like this, right.?? :Scratch: :( :?


Could be a case of PTSD........ Trust can be hard somedays. Other days it just turns into another life lesson.
Might be careful , of how you decide to give trust . I don’t think your the first one whose had those feelings
Sorry for those experiences.... :cry:


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23 Feb 2021, 8:56 pm

Hi Dan ... Yes ... trauma! 100%. I saw this in the past week and it was one of those lightbulb moments ... i trusted naively in the past, and don’t really let too many people get close as a result. I cannot ask for advice or help at all ... Ever, and I feel that to trust is a fool’s game, but it’s no longer important to me, as I cannot imagine allowing anyone to truly get that close again. But, I found this was also tied into not being able to rely on others as well or ask for advice. The following rings true for me ... I should add that certain people in my life are close to me, but I can’t imagine ever allowing myself to be tied down ever again. Being free feels too nice now ... I wouldn’t want anyone else to feel tied down either. The less complications, the better.

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23 Feb 2021, 9:09 pm

Very well put ....... keep your trust close to your heart .......I wish could have worded the trust issues better .
But just don’t have enough good experiences anymore. Sorry Juliette for your experiences :heart:


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23 Feb 2021, 9:13 pm

^^ You put it very well, Jakki. Your wording was just fine. :heart:



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23 Feb 2021, 9:16 pm

Juliette - That image really spoke to me: thanks for posting it :).


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23 Feb 2021, 9:19 pm

Glad if it helped you as much as it did me, Arian. :)



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23 Feb 2021, 9:20 pm

Danusaurus wrote:
Hey all,

Do you experience trust issues with others wether they're nt or not..?

I'm not sure if or how much my trust with others is affected from things that have happened to me like growing up l, poor choices I've made, poor decisions with people I've befriended, etc..?

I find myself incapable of trusting anybody, like literally anybody! And unsure of why exactly and no therapist has aged much in light of what the underlying reason is specifically!

For whatever reason I won't go into detail but I feel like running away from everyone and myself, from my home and all.. depression and sadness seems to be all I am capable of feeling.

Now I must be the only person who feels like this, right.?? :Scratch: :( :?


As you know, I am a surviver of gang-stalking.
This has caused a great many problems in regards to trust.

People becoming friends with me only to kick me in the teeth.
People going behind my back, destroying friendships.

I have the impression you have had more 'normal' problem with relating to people.

Is there a difference between online interaction and real-life involvement?



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23 Feb 2021, 9:29 pm

Juliette wrote:
Hi Dan ... Yes ... trauma! 100%. I saw this in the past week and it was one of those lightbulb moments ... i trusted naively in the past, and don’t really let too many people get close as a result. I cannot ask for advice or help at all ... Ever, and I feel that to trust is a fool’s game, but it’s no longer important to me, as I cannot imagine allowing anyone to truly get that close again.


I got scammed badly recently.
I can't believe that happened.
As a result, I avoid people like the coronavirus in real life, these days.
Turned into a hardcore hikikomori.
It works for me since I am in early retirement.

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But, I found this was also tied into not being able to rely on others as well or ask for advice. The following rings true for me ... I should add that certain people in my life are close to me, but I can’t imagine ever allowing myself to be tied down ever again. Being free feels too nice now ... I wouldn’t want anyone else to feel tied down either. The less complications, the better.


I'm in total agreement.
As a rule of thumb, *generally* speaking, if I can't do it myself, I do without.

BTW, I'm not a mechanic, so I have to bring my car to one to have it serviced, however. :mrgreen:



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23 Feb 2021, 9:31 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
If anything, I'm TOO trusting....


Those on the spectrum generally are.



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23 Feb 2021, 9:42 pm

the world is constantly changing, including the people in it.
This is a real head f**k for people with ASD, as we like things to be fixed, and everything to be in its place and to follow a schedule

If everything keeps on changing, you start to doubt your self and lose trust in the people and world around you.
I am lucky however that i have one or two good friends, as well as good parents who are pretty stable and trust worthy.

Most other people who i come into contact with however are a lot less stable in terms of what they say and do
including some of my mates who have ASD... but i know they have their own problems and are as spooked by life as much as i am...

Toaism is a good philosophy to learn to let go of expectations
learn to follow the universe
and enjoy what it has to offer us

find peace



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23 Feb 2021, 9:49 pm

Pepe wrote:
Juliette wrote:
Hi Dan ... Yes ... trauma! 100%. I saw this in the past week and it was one of those lightbulb moments ... i trusted naively in the past, and don’t really let too many people get close as a result. I cannot ask for advice or help at all ... Ever, and I feel that to trust is a fool’s game, but it’s no longer important to me, as I cannot imagine allowing anyone to truly get that close again.


I got scammed badly recently.
I can't believe that happened.
As a result, I avoid people like the coronavirus in real life, these days.
Turned into a hardcore hikikomori.
It works for me since I am in early retirement.

Juliette wrote:
But, I found this was also tied into not being able to rely on others as well or ask for advice. The following rings true for me ... I should add that certain people in my life are close to me, but I can’t imagine ever allowing myself to be tied down ever again. Being free feels too nice now ... I wouldn’t want anyone else to feel tied down either. The less complications, the better.


I'm in total agreement.
As a rule of thumb, *generally* speaking, if I can't do it myself, I do without.

BTW, I'm not a mechanic, so I have to bring my car to one to have it serviced, however. :mrgreen:


Sorry to hear you were scammed, Pepe! There’s so much of that going on! Hikikomori-wise(reminds me of “Eden of the East”!, in my eyes, that’s a favourable way to be and pretty much how I now live too. I retired early too(investments and own business came through for me fortunately), but have found I can still help families with trauma/behavioural issues from home, volunteer-wise). I now happily live alone.

Yes, if I can’t do it myself, I won’t do it. I’m self-taught in things I never dreamed I’d be able to do! :P I too take my car for it’s annual service/MOT as a mechanic, I’m not :) Stay safe and happy, Pepe.



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23 Feb 2021, 11:41 pm

Complex Trauma is characterised by difficulties with trust and interpersonal relationships. Sometimes the trauma occurs in early childhood or infancy, and we don't remember it because we were too young to form conscious memories. Sometimes our minds just repress the memories, even if we were older. This lack of trust can lead to hyper-vigilance about maintaining personal autonomy, without depending on others or putting oneself at risk of vulnerability.

It sounds like you may be experiencing trauma, or at the very least a form of social phobia / social anxiety.

You are certainly not alone. Many people experience the types of fears that you describe.


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24 Feb 2021, 12:58 am

I have trust issues, but I also doubt myself a lot and often end up letting people take advantage of me anyways by ignoring red flags.



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24 Feb 2021, 1:10 am

Danusaurus wrote:
Hey all,

Do you experience trust issues with others wether they're nt or not..?

I'm not sure if or how much my trust with others is affected from things that have happened to me like growing up l, poor choices I've made, poor decisions with people I've befriended, etc..?

I find myself incapable of trusting anybody, like literally anybody! And unsure of why exactly and no therapist has aged much in light of what the underlying reason is specifically!

For whatever reason I won't go into detail but I feel like running away from everyone and myself, from my home and all.. depression and sadness seems to be all I am capable of feeling.

Now I must be the only person who feels like this, right.?? :Scratch: :( :?


Like others have said it is to do with past trauma.

When you can't trust people it can be extremely isolating. Try asking your therapist (if you have one) about ptsd. Even something as simple as getting a diagnosis for this can be a massive help as you will understand yourself a lot better.


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