Do You Trigger Emotional Mind of Others?

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12 Nov 2019, 11:05 am

I find that I trigger a response from emotional mind of other people with how I communicate in writing when I say rather matter of fact things.
I find their dramatic public response of explaining to be offended to be far more inappropriate than the factually correct statement I made that they're responding too.
When do they get a disorder slapped on them and forced into therapy for being completely self-absorbed?

Just venting. I don't think people on the spectrum should have to apologize for situations as these.



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12 Nov 2019, 11:11 am

You are not the only one.  Some of us seem to have an innate talent for upsetting others over the most innocently-presented of factual statements. At least , so I've been told...



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12 Nov 2019, 11:14 am

You don't have to be autistic to be "triggering." Lots of NT's are pretty insensitive, too. They are blunt, and are not diplomatic

What I would do: I would ask the person why he/she is upset. Then explain why you made the factual statement. I would state that I did not mean to upset you, and that I'm sorry if I did. But what I said is true.

You also have to know the situation. If somebody's close relative recently passed away, for example, blunt advice would not be welcome.

Truth is always good----but truth presented in a way which doesn't belittle the person.



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12 Nov 2019, 11:33 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
You don't have to be autistic to be "triggering." Lots of NT's are pretty insensitive, too. They are blunt, and are not diplomatic

What I would do: I would ask the person why he/she is upset. Then explain why you made the factual statement. I would state that I did not mean to upset you, and that I'm sorry if I did. But what I said is true.

You also have to know the situation. If somebody's close relative recently passed away, for example, blunt advice would not be welcome.

Truth is always good----but truth presented in a way which doesn't belittle the person.


It's annoying stuff on the internet.
The classic "let me interrupt your expertise with my emotions" situation. These people need to be reasoned into a pulp.



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12 Nov 2019, 11:38 am

Roboto wrote:
It's annoying stuff on the internet.  The classic "let me interrupt your expertise with my emotions" situation.  These people need to be reasoned into a pulp.
Been there. Tried that. Very nearly got banished from this website for it.



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12 Nov 2019, 11:40 am

Not everything that is "logical" is necessarily "true."



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12 Nov 2019, 11:47 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Not everything that is "logical" is necessarily "true."

In my quick scan of the thread, I believe this is the first introduction of the words "logical" and "true."
I was speaking of "facts."
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12 Nov 2019, 11:50 am

Roboto wrote:
I was speaking of "facts."
There are people on this website who seem to be triggered by too much factual information, especially when they have already made up their minds as to what the "facts" are and what will or will not work for them.



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12 Nov 2019, 11:53 am

Yes, it happens to me too.

Roboto wrote:
It's annoying stuff on the internet.
The classic "let me interrupt your expertise with my emotions" situation. These people need to be reasoned into a pulp.

This doesn't work, you'll only make then angrier. I know this is an unsatisfactory answer, but in such situations I just disengage. Anything else seems to makes matters even worse.


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12 Nov 2019, 11:57 am

BenderRodriguez wrote:
Yes, it happens to me too.

Roboto wrote:
It's annoying stuff on the internet.
The classic "let me interrupt your expertise with my emotions" situation. These people need to be reasoned into a pulp.

This doesn't work, you'll only make then angrier. I know this is an unsatisfactory answer, but in such situations I just disengage. Anything else seems to makes matters even worse.


I do disengage now. It's definitely the worst on the internet where everyone pretends to have knowledge that they never earned. These people probably don't go out in public.



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12 Nov 2019, 12:03 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
You don't have to be autistic to be "triggering." Lots of NT's are pretty insensitive, too. They are blunt, and are not diplomatic
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Truth is always good----but truth presented in a way which doesn't belittle the person.


After noticing how many people seem to be very easily offended and have a short fuse, I started making a significant effort in how I write my posts here. Outside of joking/banter threads I'm always polite and considerate.

Which is why I'm so surprised on occasions when someone starts screaming at me, usually also throwing in some far-fetched, extravagant accusations and assumptions :?


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12 Nov 2019, 12:31 pm

I'm sorry you've had to experience this.

It's not a good feeling at all.

But: "consider the source." That person who screams at you might have a distorted sense of reality at the moment you are giving the advice. It's not "you."

In many cases, people who lash out in this way think about it a little bit, then realize that they were lashing out for no good reason.

Often, if you don't argue back, you will receive an apology after the person has reflected for a little while.



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12 Nov 2019, 12:46 pm

I don't argue back, even if sometimes that takes quite a bit of effort lol. I wasn't really talking about giving advice - more like when you post something factual and someone (not the OP) shows up out of nowhere and starts throwing accusations at various participants in the discussion.

Sometimes people have a good reason to lash out, but they seem to aim it at the wrong person.

In all honesty, there are a few people who act this way regularly (not towards me) and I've never seen them apologise. I believe it's a problem if they don't realise what they do is not ok and keep doing it.


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12 Nov 2019, 12:51 pm

I believe such a person, who lashes out incorrectly, should be aware that he/she is incorrect.

I'm not going to stand here and be attacked for an incorrect reason. I will let the person know, and prove that it is incorrect.

If the person persists in this "line of attack," I might conclude that this person is a troll.



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12 Nov 2019, 6:13 pm

My less emotinal mind triggers my own more emotional mind, than other else's or other else triggering mine.


It's annoying and downright absurd.
Quite why I don't want the emotional stuff too much on myself and would rather go straight to action and thinking. Simply point A to point B, problem then solution. Nothing in between.
Unfortunately, my thoughts and will says and do otherwise.

This is quite why I do a lot of inner work. And when I resolve the deep seated issues, my own processes would be smoother than disorganized with unnecessary steps that involves the ego's meddling.

It's this weird paradox as to where I understand the sensitive ones, being annoyed at them on another, at the same time parts of me would rather suggest to just please calm down and think, or go apathetic that is if worry or conscience does not get caught up on me.


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13 Nov 2019, 12:33 pm

Edna3362 wrote:
My less emotinal mind triggers my own more emotional mind, than other else's or other else triggering mine.


It's annoying and downright absurd.
Quite why I don't want the emotional stuff too much on myself and would rather go straight to action and thinking. Simply point A to point B, problem then solution. Nothing in between.
Unfortunately, my thoughts and will says and do otherwise.

This is quite why I do a lot of inner work. And when I resolve the deep seated issues, my own processes would be smoother than disorganized with unnecessary steps that involves the ego's meddling.

It's this weird paradox as to where I understand the sensitive ones, being annoyed at them on another, at the same time parts of me would rather suggest to just please calm down and think, or go apathetic that is if worry or conscience does not get caught up on me.


i wish this site had a "like" button so that I could say your post resonates with me without quoting it and taking up so much space... :)
But "like"