Gut bacteria and fecal transplants again

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Autism's Microbiome Researchers believe that gut bacteria may be to blame for some of the condition’s physical and emotional symptoms. - The Atllantic

Wow. I knew the gut bacteria idea was becoming mainstream because Autism Speaks is putting a lot of money into it but I had no idea that fecal transplants as an autism treatment was actually becoming popular.

What I take from the article is that the research has been anything but thorough, and there is no scientist quoted thinks gut bacteria causes autism but may cause Autistic like traits, some Autistic traits , or co-morbid conditions.

It would be good if people could move toward discussing contributing and influencing factors, rather than debating "causes" of a given condition. Even something as simple as the common cold can be more complex than it appears, as not everyone exposed to the virus gets the cold (there are other contributing factors).

That said, this is a very interesting line of research which has a great deal to offer all humans, in my opinion.

I don't understand the outrage over fecal transplants.

This isn't some quack pushing MMS. It's actual medical research.

While the "monstrosity media representation" is offensive to me, the idea that something that could cure autism or at least remit a significant amount of the symptoms without turning the patient into a chemically lobotomized zombie really is the most viable way to go isn't.

It might be a sad fact, but it's a fact none the less. "Fixing" autism, whether we're broken or not, is going to be much easier and much more likely to actually bear fruit than trying to "fix" society to be more tolerant and accepting of autistic people.

If they can actually document that it works, I'll be a little leery of ingesting that much vancomycin, but I just might happily sit down and consume actual poop with a spoon. No capsule needed.

And I don't even have any gut issues that I can tell. I poop pretty regular, the consistency is acceptable, and other than the now-constant anxiety-knotted stomach since I've made the decision to confront all PTSD triggers head-on until they give up and stop triggering me, I've never been prone to stomach or intestinal pain.

I'm as regular as a clock, with a cast-iron stomach. I'd be glad to eat literal s**t, just so I could be normal and stop eating so much metaphoric s**t.

A lot of times the easiest way is not the best way. The popular phrase "Keep it simple stupid" has it merits but a lot of times it means screwing things up because an important detail was missed.

I will never accept the notion that it is a good thing to accommodate or not fix so many other groups but not for autistics.

I have been to the point of desperation with my severe digestive problems that yes I considered having a FMT, and that is coming from someone who has OCD/germophobe. If at most it helps austistic people's GI problems which many of them suffer from, then good. If it helps more with any comorbid issues or anxiety or stress, then that is even better. The more research the better. I just don't buy for one second that FMT is only beneficial in cases of C.Difficile just because of a lack of research in the area, mainly because of a lack of will. "IBS", or diarhhea everyday is apparently only a serious problem if C.Difficile or other big name infection on a doctor's differential diagnosis causes it, if not, then suddenly it is magically, no big deal. Funny how that logic works.

Fecal transplants might actually solve/alliviate (some of) the issues associated with autism, but it will not cure it, as it is indeed a neurological effect.

Most research indicates having a healthy biome is beneficial to our overall health. I make sure to eat foods that are probiotic and prebiotic. My stomach and GI are in good shape.

Anything that can help is worth trying. There is much research in the area of auto-immune response to our ultra clean environment. Some people actually infect themselves with hookworms to reduce the symptoms from allergies and other diseases.

Brave new world of medicine.

Another reason for me not to support Autism Speaks. Rolling on.

Can’t believe I missed this thread in 2015. No surprises here to me.. science proving what I already know, people here ignoring it.

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