Study Challenges Assumptions of Autistic Social Interaction

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25 Jan 2020, 5:31 am

Study Challenges Assumptions About Social Interaction Difficulties in Autism - The University of Texas at Dallas

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Autism is characterized in part by an individual’s challenges communicating and interacting socially with others. These difficulties have typically been studied in isolation by focusing on cognitive and behavioral differences in those with autism spectrum disorder, but little work has been done on how exchanges for autistic people unfold in the real world.

Researchers at The University of Texas at Dallas recently turned the spotlight on social interaction in autism by examining it as a two-way street. Their results, published in December in the journal Autism, suggest that successful interactions for autistic adults revolve around partner compatibility and not just the skill set of either person.

“Most studies attempting to understand social disability in autism focus exclusively on individual characteristics,” said Dr. Noah Sasson, an associate professor in the School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences (BBS) and corresponding author of the study. “This presumes that any difficulties in social interaction are driven solely by the autistic person. But how each person influences and is influenced by the other is key to understanding affiliation and social quality.”

The study focused on the so-called “double-empathy problem,” which predicts that two people who are neurologically different and have distinct modes of communication and understanding may have trouble connecting with each other, as commonly occurs in interactions between autistic and non-autistic adults.

“It’s not just that autistic adults can struggle to infer the thoughts and motivations of typically developing adults, which has been well documented; the reverse is true as well. Non-autistic people struggle to infer what autistic people are thinking,” Sasson said. “Anecdotally, many autistic people often report better quality of social interaction when engaging with other autistic people. We set out to test this empirically.”

Kerrianne Morrison MS’16, PhD’19, the paper’s lead author, explained that the concept of a social-interaction difficulty being a two-sided, relational problem — and not simply a shortcoming of the autistic person — is only beginning to take hold.

“Autism is such a young field of study. Examining differences depending on the context of social situations rather than dysfunction across all contexts is starting to gain traction in academia,” she said. “We believe this represents a better understanding of how people with autism can thrive in the right contexts.”

In the study, 125 adults held a five-minute, unstructured “getting-to-know-you” conversation with an unfamiliar person. Sixty-seven of the participants had been diagnosed with autism. Each participant then independently evaluated the quality of the interaction and their first impressions of their partner.

Autistic adults were not rated as less intelligent, trustworthy or likable by either the autistic or typically developing cohort, and importantly, autistic participants’ interactions with other autistic adults were viewed by them as more favorable than those with typically developing partners.

“While typically developing participants preferred future interaction with other typically developing partners over autistic partners,” Sasson said, “autistic adults actually trended toward the opposite, preferring future interaction with other autistic adults. They also disclosed more about themselves to autistic partners and felt closer to their partners than did typically developing participants.”

Autistic adults were rated as more awkward and less socially warm than typically developing adults by both autistic and typically developing partners. Some judgments were more favorable than those from Sasson’s previous studies in which people evaluated autistic adults in videos.

“Direct interaction seems to lessen some negative evaluations of autism,” Sasson said. “This aligns with previous work suggesting that direct experience and knowledge of autism can reduce stigma and promote inclusion.”

Dr. Noah Sasson, associate professor in the School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences wrote:
If autistic people were inherently poor at social interaction, you’d expect an interaction between two autistic people to be even more of a struggle than between an autistic and non-autistic person. But that’s not what we found.


Typically developing participants also rated the conversational content with autistic and typically developing partners to be of similar quality. This shows that negative evaluations of autistic adults by non-autistic adults may be based more on social presentation differences and not their actual conversations.

“These findings suggest that social interaction difficulties in autism are not an absolute characteristic of the individual,” Sasson said. “Rather, social quality is a relational characteristic that depends upon the fit between the person and the social environment. If autistic people were inherently poor at social interaction, you’d expect an interaction between two autistic people to be even more of a struggle than between an autistic and non-autistic person. But that’s not what we found.”

Sasson said that he hopes this work shows that studying actual social interaction elicits a deeper understanding than studying individual abilities alone.

“Social disability in autism is context-dependent and emerges more in interactions with typically developing partners,” he said. “This likely reflects a mismatch in cognitive and communication styles that may improve with increased familiarity and acceptance.”

Morrison believes that this research is illuminating a crucial portion of the story for the autistic community.

“We’re moving beyond the existing research, which has fixated on social abilities in isolated, standardized contexts, and addressing this blind spot of real-world outcomes,” she said. “Particularly in adults, this is the information we need.”

Other authors affiliated with the School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences include Dr. Robert Ackerman, associate professor of psychology; cognition and neuroscience doctoral student Kilee DeBrabander; and psychological sciences doctoral student Desi Jones. Daniel Faso PhD’16 is also an author.

The work was funded by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board’s Autism Grant Program and internal funding.


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25 Jan 2020, 5:51 am

https://youtu.be/A1AUdaH-EPM

Seems to parallel what this young lady has to say on the issue, good to know that there’s a new generation of autistic researchers researching autism.

Hopefully in the long term we’ll end up with a properly 3D conceptualisation of the subject as a result.



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25 Jan 2020, 7:59 am

It's an interesting Ted talk . She mentions digging deeper in Google , and finding stuff by researchers who are on the autism spectrum . All of those ,including her, are going to be more articulate and intelligent than average,indeed very intelligent .

Whether such people are primarily speaking for their own kind ,rather than the autism community as a whole, is the $64K question for me . I think concentrating just on the deficits due to being on the spectrum is wrong , but just as wrong is whitewashing the fact there are deficits.

For me it's about striking the right balance in acknowledging the strengths and weaknesses that can occur as a result of being on the spectrum . It's about inspiration tempered with realism .



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25 Jan 2020, 8:12 am

It would explain why autistic social groups work well when it's only autistic people (i.e. it's not organized or run by well-meaning people without autism, who might have their own ideas about how things should go).

...on a tangent, "people without autism" seems an incredibly amusing phrase. Person-first terminology as desired, right?



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25 Jan 2020, 1:30 pm

Exactly. My honest, straight-forward communication is fine. If an ASD person says "I have to go" --- I'm like "ok!" If an NT is looking at their watch again and again, that just seems rude. Apparently it's the opposite experience for an NT person.

I would extend this to non-verbal persons. I am very verbal (when I am myself) and I have enjoyed my encounters with non-verbal persons. I can see the attention they give, I can see the interest they have (especially those that are mobile). I enjoy these social interactions far more than talking to my schmoozing boss.



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26 Jan 2020, 1:36 am

firemonkey wrote:
It's an interesting Ted talk . She mentions digging deeper in Google , and finding stuff by researchers who are on the autism spectrum . All of those ,including her, are going to be more articulate and intelligent than average,indeed very intelligent .

Whether such people are primarily speaking for their own kind ,rather than the autism community as a whole, is the $64K question for me . I think concentrating just on the deficits due to being on the spectrum is wrong , but just as wrong is whitewashing the fact there are deficits.

For me it's about striking the right balance in acknowledging the strengths and weaknesses that can occur as a result of being on the spectrum . It's about inspiration tempered with realism .


To be honest, I posted that link on the memory of having watched it in the medium past. Then rewatched it... and I wasn’t as impressed on the second listen: the bits towards the end when she gets to talking about examples of research was interesting and I thought she put that across well.

But... the first half of the talk seemed, I’m not sure how to describe, it seemed to lack something... like a shape that isn’t properly itself and can’t fully materialise.

Then I read your post noting she’s of the more articulate intellectual variety, and that’s it: there’s no mention of deficits, or of the level of variation between us in there at all.

But then, she’s young, and whitewashing to force your point across is very tempting...



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26 Jan 2020, 6:53 am

^ I do wonder whether a lot of people on the spectrum who get a PHD in psychology , with emphasis on ASD , do it to make it more likely that they'll be taken more seriously with regards to promoting an anti medical model stance .

The same goes with regards to psychiatric service users who often go into research to better promote an antipsychiatry position .

At their extremes there will be the 'ASD = homo sapiens 2 ' , and with psychosis - 'psychosis is a pathway to spiritual transformation' positions of such people . m

I'm all for finding and helping to improve and better utilise the skills/strengths people on the spectrum have . However that should be done without denying the deficits that can go side by side with skills/strengths people have .

I certainly want a lot less people on the spectrum and/or with mental health problems to be like me i.e a person who has never worked , and has achieved little of any value . A person who had to wait till the age of 62 for it to be acknowledged that he was on the spectrum . Thus ensuring substandard help and support for many years ,and with it too much water having gone under the bridge to make much of a positive , practical difference when the diagnosis eventually was given .



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26 Jan 2020, 8:50 am

firemonkey wrote:
^ I do wonder whether a lot of people on the spectrum who get a PHD in psychology , with emphasis on ASD , do it to make it more likely that they'll be taken more seriously with regards to promoting an anti medical model stance .

The same goes with regards to psychiatric service users who often go into research to better promote an antipsychiatry position .

At their extremes there will be the 'ASD = homo sapiens 2 ' , and with psychosis - 'psychosis is a pathway to spiritual transformation' positions of such people .


An extremely valid point: on my second listen it did come across as veering rather close to a blend of post-RDLaing-new-age wish fulfillment that trends at its extreme to regarding psychiatric disorders that incorporate delusional psychosis as some kind of path to truth, and the understandable but probably deeply counterproductive urge that a minority of seem to have to redefine ASD as the emergence of some kind of Nietzschean ubermensch ...
Both of which of course demand the demolition of all the medical theorisation and concepts developed since the enlightenment to the long term detriment of every human who struggles with neurological or psychological difficulties whether they be AS, NT or neither of the above.
Actually come to think of it that’s more of an extreme reactionary political position expressed in pseudo-leftist language than anything else...

firemonkey wrote:
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I'm all for finding and helping to improve and better utilise the skills/strengths people on the spectrum have . However that should be done without denying the deficits that can go side by side with skills/strengths people have .

I certainly want a lot less people on the spectrum and/or with mental health problems to be like me i.e a person who has never worked , and has achieved little of any value . A person who had to wait till the age of 62 for it to be acknowledged that he was on the spectrum . Thus ensuring substandard help and support for many years ,and with it too much water having gone under the bridge to make much of a positive , practical difference when the diagnosis eventually was given .


Tangentially this gave rise to the following thought:

Now I focus on it, the one no behavioural factor that links all the posthumous speculative diagnosis of AS that I’ve come across and found superficially credible is the inheritance of enormous wealth and with it the power to shape their lives, and many other peoples for that matter, around their needs: thus allowing them the freedom to contribute what and where they could to their civilisation.

Which, fine as far as it goes within the context of human societies as they are. But it’s no help at all to those of us that don’t have the wind of hierarchy under our wings.

So, yes: we need proper scientific comprehension as free of political/religious side as humans are capable to minimise isolation, suffering and regret.