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22 Mar 2020, 4:55 pm

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Thats the thing, engineering doesnt Interest me but jobs with other people actually do. Sometimes i doubt that im autistic und maybe its just social anxiety.


Honestly, I'm also on the spectrum and I would still be interested in jobs with other people too.


I work alongside people with Learning Disabilities and Autism.

I love it.


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22 Mar 2020, 4:57 pm

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Well im somewhat of a social darwinist.


I thought I was one of those!
Also when I was about your age.
Turns out believing that when you have ASD is a form of intellectual self-sabotage.
I’d recommend dropping it: I did and I’m much happier and more productive (I even have work to go to now!) :D


I don't think so. I have ASD and I'm some elements of social darwinist.



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22 Mar 2020, 6:35 pm

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Social Darwinism (n): The theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals.  Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

:eew: How could anyone be proud of that?


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22 Mar 2020, 6:54 pm

I'm employed. Worst part about it is the commute, though I don't have to worry about that again until the whole COVID-19 thing subsides since I've been working from home the last week and a half.


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22 Mar 2020, 7:07 pm

I worked at 7 different jobs in my lifetime. There were times that I worked two jobs at once.


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22 Mar 2020, 7:07 pm

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It seems to me that most autists are unemployed, live either by their parents, live on welfare, or disability payments. My question ist why is that? Why ist it so Hard for most Autists to geht even a simple job? What makes it exactly so difficult? And what would have to change that more autists could find a job?

Hell no. I've been employed continuously since age 19 in three different cities, and I'm 60 now. I work as a communications electronics technician.


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22 Mar 2020, 7:26 pm

Fnord wrote:
My dictionary says...

Social Darwinism (n): The theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals.  Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

:eew: How could anyone be proud of that?


Don’t forget the advocacy of eugenics and dodgy NSDAP links! :D

Our genetically defined superiors must know and remember the fullness of their heritage. :lol:

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Cos that was the case with me before I snapped out of it.

Fun historical fact: it was also the case with the guy the writing of whom’s name invokes Godwin’s Law.



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22 Mar 2020, 8:34 pm

social darwinism......... brings to mind the writing on the Georgia Guidestones.
Then you might realize the US Constitution and the bill of rights. Had a bigger Image in mind possibly
Concerning US Citizens ?


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22 Mar 2020, 8:36 pm

I worked full-time in one career for many years. I burned out and nearly died, mind you, but I did it.

:P


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22 Mar 2020, 9:14 pm

I've had a lot of jobs in the past. First was as a golf caddy when I was about 12.
Have worked in a scrapyard searching (through mountains of metal) for non-ferrous scrap, briefly as a commercial fisherman, numerous gas-station/convenience store jobs, telemarketing (sucks and I'm terrible at it), inbound telemarketing filling out credit card applications, delivery driving, dish washing, yard work, general labour, probably others.
I've never managed to hold a job for six months. Usually quit or fired within three months. Sometimes only days.
Never managed to make enough to do more than just survive, really. Or managed to figure out how to do anything more than just barely survive. Not sure if I've ever had anything that would qualify as "gainful employment".
Currently on SSI.
Honestly I'm pretty scared of getting a job, even if someone was hiring for something I'm capable of and was willing to hire me. I feel like I'd probably get the job, lose my SSI because of it, and then lose my job and my place in a fairly short amount of time and end up spending a few more years on the streets before finding my way out of that mess again.
I really don't like being on SSI, but it is far better than some of the alternatives, and until or unless I can figure out something better I'm really thankful to have it.



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22 Mar 2020, 9:41 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
I worked full-time in one career for many years. I burned out and nearly died, mind you, but I did it.

:P

yikes,,,,, glad you survived . good job !


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23 Mar 2020, 1:45 am

Fnord wrote:
My dictionary says...

Social Darwinism (n): The theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals.  Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

:eew: How could anyone be proud of that?


Well i was once far right too, and a unironic fascist.



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23 Mar 2020, 2:02 am

Taranos262 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My dictionary says...

Social Darwinism (n): The theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals.  Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.

:eew: How could anyone be proud of that?


Well i was once far right too, and a unironic fascist.


Oh dear! 8O

Out of curiosity: what was it that led you to abandon those attitudes?

And would you characterise yourself as “recovered” or “recovering”?



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23 Mar 2020, 6:20 am

Here's a lovely paragraph from a review of "The Sand Pebbles" by Richard McKenna:
"There was always a clique of old hands in an engine room, and they always wanted a new man to learn from them as much as they wanted him to know and wait his time for admission to the clique. It always disturbed them to see Jake Holman learning by himself. They were afraid he would learn too much and have power over them, and they were right. It was rough on them. They couldn't try to learn more themselves because they had already spent too many years pretending that they already knew it all. They couldn't openly stop Holman from learning, because learning the plant was supposed to be good. So they always tried by the weight of their silent disapproval to force Jake Holman to stay as fumbling and ignorant as they were, and nothing in the world could spur Jake Holman on more than that silent disapproval. The machinery was always on Jake Holman's side, because machinery was never taken in by pretense and ignorance."



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23 Mar 2020, 11:26 am

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What are the specific social issues to overcome that prevent or make it difficult an for aspie man to ask a woman?

Women typically give nonverbal clues that they will accept the advances of a man.
Aspies typically don't understand them. Miss them entirely.



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23 Mar 2020, 11:47 am

I am currently employed and have been employed in various jobs for the past 34 years. The only two exceptions to my continuous employment was my first year of college and six months of traveling.

After reaching the age of 50, working isn't becoming easier, it's becoming harder.

I feel like my work life is like running a marathon: It was easy when I was young and has gradually gotten more difficult. I feel like I'm mentally exhausted and I no longer want to work a job in which interaction with other coworkers and customers. I'm past the point of burnout with that. I don't know how much longer I can continue on "business as usual".