Question if you can have ASD without sensory issues, etc

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Can you be autistic without having issues with sensory issues and social skills?


For example, you can just have these criteria for an ASD diagnosis



Example of ASD without sensory issues and social skills:

1. Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity, ranging, for example, from abnormal
social approach and failure of normal back-and-forth conversation; to
reduced sharing of interests, emotions, or affect; to failure to initiate or
respond to social interactions.


2. Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus
(e.g., strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects,
excessively circumscribed or perseverative interests).

1. is a social skills issue.

Sensory issues are not required for a DSM-5 ASD diagnosis. I believe 90% have sensory issues, but not everyone who is ASD has sensory issues.

Are you questioning your diagnosis?

Yes, because I have very good social skills, even though I have Autism.


I did develop social skills much later than usual

My ASD scores and my history of being diagnosed with Pervasive Developmental Disorder

I think my diagnosis should be Learning Disorders, Language Disorder, Unspecified Intellectual Disability, Unspecified Communication Disorder, Unspecified Neurodevelopmental Disorder, Unspecified Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder, Sensory Processing Disorder from my early to late childhood, adolescence and adulthood

The reason why I said that, it is because I did not have have much symptoms of ASD, but I do have history of developmental delay

Symptoms of Pervasive Developmental Disorder from my adulthood:


1. Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity, ranging, for example, from
abnormal social approach and failure of normal back-and-forth
conversation; to reduced sharing of interests, emotions, or affect; to failure
to initiate or respond to social interactions.

2. Stereotyped or repetitive motor movements, use of objects, or speech
(e.g., simple motor stereotypes, lining up toys or flipping objects,
idiosyncratic phrases).

3. Insistence on sameness, inflexible adherence to routines, or ritualized
patterns of verbal or nonverbal behavior (e.g., extreme distress at small
changes, difficulties with transitions, rigid thinking patterns, greeting rituals,
need to take the same route or eat the same food every day).

4. Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus
(e.g., strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects,
excessively circumscribed or perseverative interests).

5. Hyper- or hypo reactivity to sensory input or unusual interest in sensory
aspects of the environment (e.g. apparent indifference to pain/temperature,
adverse response to specific sounds or textures, excessive smelling or
touching of objects, visual fascination with lights or movement).







Symptoms of Pervasive Developmental Disorder from early to late childhood:


1) Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity, ranging, for example, from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back-and-forth conversation; to reduced sharing of interests, emotions, or affect; to failure to initiate or respond to social interactions.

2) Deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used for social interaction, ranging, for example, from poorly integrated verbal and nonverbal communication; to abnormalities in eye contact and body language or deficits in understanding and use of gestures; to a total lack of facial expressions and nonverbal communication.

3) Deficits in developing, maintaining, and understand relationships, ranging, for example, from difficulties adjusting behavior to suit various social contexts; to difficulties in sharing imaginative play or in making friends; to absence of interest in peers

4) Stereotyped or repetitive motor movements, use of objects, or speech (e.g., simple motor stereotypes, lining up toys or flipping objects, echolalia, idiosyncratic phrases).

5) Insistence on sameness, inflexible adherence to routines, or ritualized patterns of verbal or nonverbal behavior (extreme distress at small changes, difficulties with transitions, rigid thinking patterns, greeting rituals, need to take the same route or eat the same food every day).

6) Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus (e.g., strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects, excessively circumscribed or perseverative interests).

7) Hyper- or hypo reactivity to sensory input or unusual interest in sensory aspects of the environment (e.g. apparent indifference to pain/temperature, adverse response to specific sounds or textures, excessive smelling or touching of objects, visual fascination with lights or movement).

Last edited by FranzOren on 06 Sep 2020, 9:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.

But I now only have almost two symptoms of ASD left


My symptoms of ASD now:

1) Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity, ranging, for example, from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back-and-forth conversation; to reduced sharing of interests, emotions, or affect; to failure to initiate or respond to social interactions.

2) Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus (e.g., strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects, excessively circumscribed or perseverative interests).

Right, you need a second "restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities" for an ASD diagnosis.

Special interests are my strongest trait too. I'm probably borderline on the other 3 too though.

What is your AQ score? I don't like the aspie quiz since it doesn't give a clear boundary between NT/ND. And you have to draw the line somewhere .

My scores:

Total score Language Social relatedness Sensory/motor Circumscribed interests
Test taken by you on 21 July 2020 161.0 13.0 57.0 49.0 42.0

The Friendship quotient:

Test taken by you on 21 July 2020 62.0



Score AQ-10 score
Test taken by you on 21 July 2020 22.0 2.0


The Empathy Quotient (EQ):

Score
Test taken by you on 21 July 2020 54.0


The Systemising Quotient (SQ):

Score
Test taken by you on 21 July 2020 93.0


Reading the mind in films:

Test taken on 21 July 2020: You scored 4.0 out of 22 in 6.5 seconds

Part 2: Faces task
Test taken on 21 July 2020: You scored 29.0% in 10.3 seconds. Faces: 28.0% Voices: 30.0%

Part 2: Faces task
Test taken on 21 July 2020: You scored 29.0% in 10.3 seconds. Faces: 28.0% Voices: 30.0%

Two-Factor Imagination Scale (TFIS)

Score
Test taken by you on 21 July 2020

The Sensory Perception Quotient

Score
Test taken by you on 21 July 2020 49.0

I posted my scores

I used to have the second part "restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities" from my early to late childhood

Here are my ASD scores

https://sites.google.com/view/d3oren

I don't have sensory issues and I have Asperger. I was diagnosed under DSM 4. So yes, as far as sensory issues, its possible to have ASD without sensory issues.

I do have social skills problems though. Are you sure you understand what it means to have problems with social skills? What you described in part 1 quoted below is what we mean by social skills problems. So if you say you have "1" then yes you do have problems with social skills.



In any case, the description above is exactly what I have, and I have Asperger diagnosis. Although I was diagnosed under DSM 4. So I am not sure whether I would meet DSM 5 criteria. But I meet DSM 4 criteria for sure.

Last edited by QFT on 07 Sep 2020, 1:20 am, edited 1 time in total.

My symptoms of Pervasive Developmental Disorder from my early to late childhood and early adolescence



https://drive.google.com/file/d/189Py-DXJDfUAf8uAqmxxRI1yZzVT6dyP/view

My symptoms of Pervasive Developmental Disorder from my late adolescence and adulthood


https://drive.google.com/file/d/188Bh2l ... 8whNm/view