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FranzOren
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27 Sep 2020, 3:33 pm

There is one video from a person who says he has PHD or related medical degree.

He also talked about Criminal Autistic Psychopathy.

There is one video of a person who says that there is a link between mass shootings, by some individuals with ASD.

( He also said that he has Autism himself )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xM7Ah ... e=youtu.be


I also wander if people like me who would have been diagnosed with PDD-NOS long time ago, are also much more likely to commit crimes than most people with profound developmental disorders

There is also quote from Wikipedia

"It is common for individuals with PDD-NOS to have more intact social skills and a lower level of intellectual deficit than individuals with other PDDs."

If it is common for people like me with ASD to have more intact social skills, am I more likely to commit crimes than most Autistic people?

Some of you guys point out that committing crimes is a social skill. If that is the case, then I am more likely to commit crimes ( even though I have Autism), because I have better social skills.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17615427/


https://www.google.com/search?q=Pervasi ... e&ie=UTF-8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kOE2Pad9lA


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27185105/


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17877031/

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CATT ... CA0&uact=5

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CATT ... CA0&uact=5


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CATT ... CA0&uact=5




I am sorry for posting lots of links, some of those links have data and statistics that seems important to me.



I just wanted to ask if I am more likely to commit crimes than most people with ASD, because I have better social skills.


I feel like that I am more likely to commit crimes, because I have social skills.


Should I be afraid against myself?


I feel scared, having social skills is scary.



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27 Sep 2020, 4:07 pm

Do you have a sense of right and wrong and do you have an aversion to doing something wrong?



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27 Sep 2020, 4:08 pm

I do have sense from right and wrong.

I used to have some thoughts, but I chose not to act on it



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27 Sep 2020, 4:14 pm

That sounds pretty normal. I don't think you are especially susceptible to criminality.



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27 Sep 2020, 4:18 pm

I used to break the cyber-laws for five years and broke one law by breaking my brother's best friend's window ( when I was psychotic ).


But I never committed serious crimes.



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27 Sep 2020, 4:21 pm

People break traffic laws all the time.



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27 Sep 2020, 4:23 pm

I meant that I broke the laws related to being on the computer and I once broke my brother's best friend's windows when I had Bipolar Disorder



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27 Sep 2020, 4:31 pm

Do you think you will continue that behavior?



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27 Sep 2020, 4:44 pm

I would say 'no', but I don't know what my future holds



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27 Sep 2020, 5:26 pm

And this kind of makes the conversation tricky, beside that we don't actually know each other. But past experience does not predict future action. You seem to understand who you are and the actions you have taken. I don't think committing a crime is certain simply because you have ASD.



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27 Sep 2020, 5:42 pm

I agree.


I have had other mental health issues going on alongside with Autism, or I just broke the laws without any cause at all.

Breaking the laws is not okay, regardless if I have any form or health issues or not, unless I was insane, but I was not insane



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27 Sep 2020, 7:19 pm

If committing crimes is a social skill then surely NTs would be the ones more likely to commit crimes then?

People in the other thread said that people should understand murderers instead of shame them, but you try telling that to families of innocent murder victims. All they'll say is "I hope the murderer rots in hell".

It is quite normal, understandable and acceptable to shame these murderers because murder is a drastic thing to do and nobody who murders can have a healthy mind. Murder is a big deal and it is completely illegal to kill or hurt another person in the UK, even if it's self-defence. Yes, the law is ridiculous here.

Usually murder is caused by hard drugs (at least in London). Let's just go with that theory rather than saying ASD is the cause. :roll:


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27 Sep 2020, 7:24 pm

“Autistic Psychopathy“ happens to be the term Hans Asperger applied to the syndrome he “created” during the 1940s.

It has nothing to do with modern notions of psycho/sociopathy.



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27 Sep 2020, 9:36 pm

Joe90 wrote:
If committing crimes is a social skill then surely NTs would be the ones more likely to commit crimes then?

People in the other thread said that people should understand murderers instead of shame them, but you try telling that to families of innocent murder victims. All they'll say is "I hope the murderer rots in hell".

It is quite normal, understandable and acceptable to shame these murderers because murder is a drastic thing to do and nobody who murders can have a healthy mind. Murder is a big deal and it is completely illegal to kill or hurt another person in the UK, even if it's self-defence. Yes, the law is ridiculous here.

Usually murder is caused by hard drugs (at least in London). Let's just go with that theory rather than saying ASD is the cause. :roll:





I am am sorry for saying that I am more likely to commit crimes than most people with ASD, but the problem is that there are some people with ASD are are more likely to commit crimes, if they have better social skills.


I can say that I am more likely to commit crimes, because I have social skills, even though I have ASD.



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27 Sep 2020, 9:41 pm

Second of all, there are crimes that doesn't evolve social skills to commit them, unless you have severe to profound forms of developments disorders, that would be a completely different story.


But commiting serious crimes, could evolve social skills, but there are rare cases where even some people with severe Autism could commit any crimes, including the ones we are talking about right now.



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27 Sep 2020, 9:53 pm

But thinking that only drugs Psychopathy and Schizophrenia causes people to commit crimes is just offensive!


I am sure that there are conduct disorders and even some psychotic or just some other developmental disorders, if not Autism, that may cause you to commit crimes.


Psychotic Disorders can be developmental disorders, depending on the situation.

Personality Disorders can be developmental disorders can be developmental disorders depending on the situation.


For example, some of you guys on the other topics said the ADHD is common in prisoners, but did you know that ADHD is a developmental disorder


I am sure you can have biological, genetic and even environmental factors that caused you to have health issues and that it may had caused you to commit crimes.