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18 Mar 2021, 12:43 am

Or someone to go out and enjoy doing fun things with make me narcissistic?

I have been accused by individuals of needing a narcissistic supply because I desire a mate/companion to spend some time with. I don't understand this as I am not seeking their admiration or similar, I would just like to find someone whose company I enjoy.

Granted I can tend to like my alone time, and there are some activities I prefer to do by myself, but I would still like to find someone to enjoy some activities with as well.

Has anyone else had a similar accusation made against them and does it seem weird to you that some individuals believe that the only reason a human would want to interact with other humans only to fulfill their ego based tendency to need to be worshiped???

For me needing company that I enjoy has nothing to do with being worshipped, so I am confused by this.



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18 Mar 2021, 12:47 am

Also if I try to talk to anyone about my frustration with not having anyone to spend time with or any bonds in my life, they seem to want me to take emotional support for my self hatred.

I don't have self hatred. I don't have extreme self love either as I am not egoist by nature. I am not ego dominated and my need for company/love/bonds etc has nothing whatsoever to do with ego or self esteem. My biological yearning for such continues on unfulfilled and rather than turning into self loathing it turns to pure frustration. Which then can cause a meltdown when I can't find anyone whom understands.

I am not looking for an evening of help with my self hatred, I was looking for someone to go and do fun things with....

I can't make them understand what I am looking for and that I am having difficulty finding it.



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18 Mar 2021, 12:54 am

I can totally relate. In my case, they don't accuse me of needing "narcissistic supply" but instead they are accusing me of "dwelling in details". As in, they don't even realize that what I am talking about is feeling emotionally starved. They think that I am just analyzing details for the sake of analyzing details -- as autistic people presumably do. And it really hurts because I feel like I have real emotional need and it is not being heard.

I think what they do to you and what they do to me is similar in a sense that they substitute valid emotional need for something they read in a psychiatric manual. In your case they look up the symptom of narcissism in my case they look up the symptom of Asperger.

What hurts the most is that they know perfectly well that both they themselves as well as all of their friends have a need for validation too, and in those cases they regard it as perfectly valid. But they refuse to say that for you and me it is as valid since they deny your humanity and mine, or at least it feels that way.



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18 Mar 2021, 2:15 am

I am confused by this too.

Don't most humans want company?

I don't think wanting company makes you a narcissist. It makes you...social?

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18 Mar 2021, 4:58 pm

Earthbound_Alien - consider the source.

These kinds of nonsensical formulations about mental health and emotional/social needs suggest some kind of perceptual weirdness in the person making them. I don't mean you should avoid those people, but it's okay if you just shrug your shoulders and tell them "Different strokes, for different folks," then refuse to discuss the matter further.


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18 Mar 2021, 5:04 pm

I think wanting the company of others is pretty normal, not that I'm an expert on normal. :nerdy:



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18 Mar 2021, 5:13 pm

To say it's narcissistic to "want some company" is an absolute absurdity.

An example of extending the meaning of "narcissism" beyond the pale.



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18 Mar 2021, 6:53 pm

Having meaningful relationships with our fellow humans is a psychological need among all people (as far as I know). Studies on isolation show that people start to suffer pretty quickly when deprived from all human contact, that's why solitary confinement is harmful for example. So no, you're definitely not narcissistic for wanting some company. Although I will say that expressing that you feel lonely pretty much always results in either shallow sympathy or dismissal and nothing else. Unless you are close to someone, they usually don't want to deal with your emotional baggage. I think that's why they reacted negatively if you expressed feeling lonely and/or a desire for companionship. That's just from my personal experience. It comes off as "desperate".



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18 Mar 2021, 8:45 pm

I also enjoy social company. I don't think it makes me a narcissist.


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18 Mar 2021, 9:10 pm

Pretty extreme definition of narcissism :skull:


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18 Mar 2021, 10:27 pm

To be honest I don't think wanting company makes you a narcissist, in fact I believe it makes you the opposite. You want to reach out and want to spend time with other people and this is totally normal. Everyone at some point craves company. Some people crave more company and like having many friends and others may prefer a smaller group or very few friends at all. None of this makes you a narcissist.

I find it very odd someone would come to the accusation that one would only want friends to be worshipped. To me that concept doesn't make any sense at all.



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18 Mar 2021, 11:06 pm

Earthbound_Alien wrote:
Or someone to go out and enjoy doing fun things with make me narcissistic?

I have been accused by individuals of needing a narcissistic supply because I desire a mate/companion to spend some time with. I don't understand this as I am not seeking their admiration or similar, I would just like to find someone whose company I enjoy.

Granted I can tend to like my alone time, and there are some activities I prefer to do by myself, but I would still like to find someone to enjoy some activities with as well.

Has anyone else had a similar accusation made against them and does it seem weird to you that some individuals believe that the only reason a human would want to interact with other humans only to fulfill their ego based tendency to need to be worshiped???

For me needing company that I enjoy has nothing to do with being worshipped, so I am confused by this.


Narcism is where the person will go out to be everything to the other person only to gain their trust and love for the purpose of cruely sabotaging their love by turning on rhem and doing mean and bad things to them. Often women who have been raped in their younger years turn to have a narcistic streak in them because they have not forgiven they bear a grudge and take it out on innocent men who themselves become victims of narcistic abuse (I for one have been such a victim with my very first GF where we were making peeperations for marriage and and then without any warning or indication she not only left cutting all ties but caused much financial harm in what she did (When she knew she had done this deed, ir was at that point she cut off all contact).
Understand that they take our their revenge on the most innocent of people because they are usually too cowardly to face the rapist or a person who would be a real threat to them if the person found out what they had done, so their victims tend to be the kindest hearted individuals.


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19 Mar 2021, 12:00 am

I think they are just misinterpreting her signals. They know that wanting company is a good thing, but they don't know that this is actually what she wants. She does X, Y and Z in order to seek company, but they think that her motivation for doing X, Y and Z is something else entirely. Basically they have no clue that X, Y and Z has anything to do with wanting a company, while to her it is self-evident that it does, so there is that huge disconnect there.

It happens to me a lot as well, just in a different form. Like I might talk a lot about who said what and when. The reason I do that is that I feel like there was some misunderstanding that causes emotional distance, so I want to address that misunderstanding in order to be emotionally close again. But others have no idea that it has anything to do with emotions. They just think I like to argue for the sake of arguing. I once asked somebody "what would have happened if I were to clarify that the reason that I argue is that my feelings were hurt". She said "yes this would have helped". And I said "and wasn't it self evident that my feelings were hurt?" Apparently not to her.



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19 Mar 2021, 12:04 am

If you came from a place where being friendly and actively trying to be social is deem suspicious...

Yeah, that's how it can be viewed. Especially if it's forced.
Viewed as some premeditated scheme to break a person's guard down, gain that person's trust to get whatever motive interpreted as.


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19 Mar 2021, 1:29 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
Earthbound_Alien wrote:
Or someone to go out and enjoy doing fun things with make me narcissistic?

I have been accused by individuals of needing a narcissistic supply because I desire a mate/companion to spend some time with. I don't understand this as I am not seeking their admiration or similar, I would just like to find someone whose company I enjoy.

Granted I can tend to like my alone time, and there are some activities I prefer to do by myself, but I would still like to find someone to enjoy some activities with as well.

Has anyone else had a similar accusation made against them and does it seem weird to you that some individuals believe that the only reason a human would want to interact with other humans only to fulfill their ego based tendency to need to be worshiped???

For me needing company that I enjoy has nothing to do with being worshipped, so I am confused by this.


Narcism is where the person will go out to be everything to the other person only to gain their trust and love for the purpose of cruely sabotaging their love by turning on rhem and doing mean and bad things to them. Often women who have been raped in their younger years turn to have a narcistic streak in them because they have not forgiven they bear a grudge and take it out on innocent men who themselves become victims of narcistic abuse (I for one have been such a victim with my very first GF where we were making peeperations for marriage and and then without any warning or indication she not only left cutting all ties but caused much financial harm in what she did (When she knew she had done this deed, ir was at that point she cut off all contact).
Understand that they take our their revenge on the most innocent of people because they are usually too cowardly to face the rapist or a person who would be a real threat to them if the person found out what they had done, so their victims tend to be the kindest hearted individuals.


It sounds as if you have had a bad experience with someone. I am sorry to hear that.