"Hating autism" and the damage it does blog post

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https://autisticnotweird.com/hating-autism/

This makes a lot of sense to me.

If I could cure my light sensitivity, I would.

I've already reduced my meltdowns & I'd love a cure for them.

If I could change everything about myself, I wouldn't. And if I wanted to do that then I think that would be an unhealthy way of thinking. But like the blog says, if it's your own brain then it's up to you.

Reads like a ND propaganda article trying to blur facts, white wash people`s real difficulties and trying to gas light people into questioning their own reality.

If you were a parent of a severely autistic person who died at 37 (average age of death of severe autism) you might have hated the condition they suffered from too.

Same when a parent has to put their adult child in a home because they can’t look after them anymore because of violence or other negative behaviour.

This is just a poor attempt to change the narrative, which wont work, people see & know the truth.

"I love my autistic son but hate the difficulties his autism gives him" and "I love my son but hate his autism" all sounds like semantics to me.

Also the rest of the examples the author used was comparing apples and oranges, not the same thing. You can change how society treats people by advocating and protesting and being an activist but doing this about autism is not going to make their issues go away they deal with. Maybe with mild autism yes. Temple Grandin is a poster child for mild autism and how people need to change their attitudes about the word normal and accept differences and be more tolerant towards those who are a bit awkward and has sensory issues and have some behaviors that are considered odd or wrong but it doesn't impair them.

I fully agree with what you say.

Some of quote comparisons this person says about black, jewish people or women are some of the most absurd and cringeworthy things ive read in a long time.

He`s also basically trying to dictate to people how to think about their reality, also known as gas lighting.

When i see news footage of a distressed person in a secure mental unit screaming down a corridor, or an equally severely distressed human being i dont need an ignorent, self agenda serving person telling me i dont have the right not to like the disorder they suffer from.

I liked the article and thought it had some valuable things to say. Thanks for posting.

It is just coming to occur to me that it is not the autism I hate...

It is how people treat it, like guess what I became an adult with autism with no intervention...I may not be totally fine, but I am a freaking human being. And some of the earliear 90s treatments I heard of would have done more to traumatize me than help me. So actually in a way I feel I was kinda lucky my autism did not get picked up on when I was a kid in the 90's, even though I certainly had it.

Maybe don't call those of us with so called HFA 'autistic' then.

I see no value in hating myself for supposedly having Asperger's.

I see value in hating my sensory sensitivities. But 'autistic' describes the entire brain. Are we really saying that someone has an entirely broken brain just for being HFA/Aspie?!

Even with LFA people... is this really helpful language to be using?! I've 'met' perfectly nice, intelligent LFA people on here. The world would be a lesser place without them.

I love my brain. I love that I'm different to average. I love being able to see things with actual detail rather than as a smorgasbord of visual experience.

This site hates any generalisation about NTs but... most NTs I have met are not very smart because they do not read very much. The average person reads 1 book (usually a novel) a year. I like being smarter than that. Most NT people I know are not very passionate (my mother is an exception) because their hobbies are not intense enough, they go through life only half caring. I'm glad I love things. I'm glad I have specialist interests.

Of course I'm not going to convince someone who hates themselves or wants to hate their children.

And like with LGBT people: we need to ask why the death rate is what it is. Mostly it's the same causes - violence and suicide. We need to create a world where people aren't attacked for being autistic and where people like themselves enough to stay alive.

I'm glad it's ND propaganda because the neurodiversity movement is right.

Oh and for me the ND movement is most certainly not PC. I like it because it celebrates my intelligence.

I can see you wish to use the well establish framing technique of converting a logical & reasonable statement into negative language.

“Of course, I'm not going to convince someone who hates themselves or wants to hate their children.”

I can’t remember saying I hated myself or people should hate their children?


I never hated my grandmother when she had dementia, I did hated the condition she suffered from when she couldn’t remember me.

I’ve seen severely autistic adults in a state of severe distress that no human should have to endure, so its natural to hate the condition they suffer from & separate that from them.

It seems some people are bizarrely unable or unwilling to separate a medical condition from the person, they literally want to be a physical embodiment of a medical condition.

If you like your condition that’s great, but this person was dictating how people should interpret their reality & a statement like “I love my black friend but hate the fact that he`s black” is totally cringeworthy.

Apart from the fact that being black is a normal attribute of the human makeup, if someone was racist, they probably wouldn’t be friends with them in the first place, which makes the comment even more illogical.

The same cannot be said about disability that means a person`s brain does not work properly and they suffer as a result of that.

By the way the high suicide & low life expectancy is largely caused by the autism itself.

The loneliness, isolation, poverty, depression & high mental stress that takes its toll in the physical body. That’s just aspergers that fast track us to an early grave at just 54, those of us on the severe end can expect to die at 37 and social acceptance has just a limited impact at that end.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog ... m-disorder

https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/adult ... -problems/

Autism is the entire brain.

That is what I was told when I was diagnosed with it and told about it.

I am not going to hate my entire brain.

For someone who is not a Christian or a believer in the soul, the brain is the important part of the person because it serves as akin to a soul.

Honestly? I'm not poor and I don't feel lonely. Ever. I listen to NTs talk about feeling lonely and tbh? It sounds pathetic. Rely on yourself when it comes to social entertainment.

Poverty in my case if it did exist would be a social problem with stupid employers not seeing past the social aspects to hire me for something like shelving in a library, being a touch typist or a computer programmer. All of which are skills I have, all of which are jobs I didn't get because idiots think that to be employed in any kind of job you need to act like a receptionist. Nah - just don't give us front facing roles.

Seriously. Hate yourself. But I don't hate me. And trying to talk me into it is gas lighting and manipulative.

Please, watch your language.
Saying that the entire autism spectrum - all forms and aspects of it - is "brain not working properly" - is offensive.

Thank you Magz.

There is nothing inherently wrong with my brain.

If it's an Alzheimers person? They have no positive traits from that, it hasn't lasted all their lives and often people (including Christians) get terribly upset over 'losing' their relatives - while their relatives are right there. That's because it damages a pre-existing brain so it no longer feels like the person is there.

Well I and many of us feel our brain doesn’t work properly and autism is officially an official medical condition so it’s not unreasonable to say that.

I also don’t hate myself or anyone else with a mental health condition or asking anyone else to.

I just take objection to someone who try’s to tell my I can’t have a particular opinion on my own or loved ones health.

Last edited by carlos55 on 13 Mar 2021, 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

I have an experience of both mental illness - that is indeed brain not working properly - and ASD - which is brain not working typically.
They are two very different experiences.

We still don't allow such generalisations on NTs and please, don't cross the line. An average person is NT but NTs are not clones of an average person. Presenting them as if they were is offensive, too.

Great article. Thank you for posting this.

Posting this was my attempt to understand curbies.

Turns out that his understanding of them IS way too charitable.