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01 Apr 2021, 6:50 pm

I even have hard time communicating with people who have Asperger Syndrome as well, even though it is Autism in it self. It's just that people with Asperger Syndrome tend to have much better social-emotional reciprocity than me and they feel too mature for me.

I sometimes annoy and stalk people with Asperger Syndrome with my interests without intending to.

I know that annoying people and stalking is a crime, but I sometimes can't help it and I don't have any intentions to harm others.

It's not that I am doing this for psychopathy reasons.

I am not that high-functioning as some of you might think.

I show some unspecified symptoms of Classic Autism.

My mens rea is borderline. I know what I am doing is wrong, but because of my symptomlogy and pathology of ASD and Conduct Disorder, I can't help it.



My view of my own version of mens rea:

I don't have any intentions to harm others, when in reality I sometimes stalk people with my autistic interests. It's very condescending and pompous.



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01 Apr 2021, 8:08 pm

So if I committed a crime without intention, because of ASD, it is not my fault. But if it was high crimes, then that would be a different story.


I hope that I am correct.


I want to stress. Most people with mental health and developmental disorders are ten times more likely to be victims than being perpetrators. But I was asking if there are rare situations where a developmental disorder can be used as a criminal defense.


I am afraid there are so many social rules to follow to the point where I am committing a crime without intention and not even being aware of it.



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01 Apr 2021, 8:54 pm

You seem to be repeating yourself about this. Maybe this is all a special interest of yours? I had an obsession with this (older) guy when I was a teenager, and I ended up stalking him. I was completely harmless and it was just a case of a teenager having an obsessive crush on a man, but I did go a bit too far. I knew what I was doing but at the same time I couldn't help myself. The obsession took over my mind and my life. Thankfully I grew out of this obsession in time and I learned from it to never get that obsessed with someone again.

So with you it might be a phase, do you think? I know autistic people can get carried away with their special interests and find it difficult to take their mind off it and they feel they have to keep researching it and fantasising about it until the interest fizzles out.
I think that is what's going on here.

The trouble is, having special interests is all well and good, but it starts causing problems when they involve people. I've never had special interests with facts or objects or sci-fi or technology. My special interests have always been certain people, and it has caused me social problems. Thankfully I don't have obsessions or special interests any more and I'm glad about it.


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01 Apr 2021, 9:44 pm

I am sorry that I repeated about this again.

I am just worried that I might commit an offense without intending to, because my social skills are not that good.

There is a huge difference between committing planned crimes and committing crimes without intending to, such as; Diminished capacity or legal insanity.

Example:

* trespassing without intending to
* taking unpaid items from the store without intending to
* being violent (murder is rare if this situation happened), because your routine changed or you were overwhelmed
* some autistic behaviors that may mistakenly be seen as criminal
* Being too aggressive with your interest and stalking them without intending to.
* harassing people without intending to
* commit rape without intending to, because you thought that your partner let you have sex with her.


Again, these situations are rare. Most people with mental health and developmental disorders are ten times more likely to be victims than being perpetrators.



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02 Apr 2021, 3:18 am

I’ve said before on your other thread it appears you are in possible denial and you are hyper posting and hyperbolize personal risk about crime in general as a deflection from facing your own issues.

Very little of your account makes logical sense to anyone with critical thinking.

You committ a serious and disturbing crime multiple times over a long period, of which there will be evidence, of which the police speak to you about but then claim the police stated “you did nothing wrong”

Well the police have multiple ways of dealing with these kind of things that don’t always have to end up in court.

The sort of things a fancy lawyer , psychological report along with an official agreement to visit a psychiatrist can do.

So just because you overheard a stray comment from a police officer doesn’t literally mean you did nothing wrong.

Especially if you admit doing it in the first place and doing it multiple times.

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So if I committed a crime without intention, because of ASD, it is not my fault.


Your previous comments are starting to trivialize the crime of child sexual abuse of which myself and many others find offensive, including many on WP who may have been victims themselves.

If you are sincere about rehabilitation you need to stop blaming ASD & face up to what you did, why you did it and get help.


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02 Apr 2021, 3:26 am

usually autistic people dont accidentally commit crimes

you seem to be obsessed with children - thats not normal and if you think you might accidentally commit a crime then you might accidentally sexually abuse a child
It means your a danger to yourself and the public and you need to get help instead of keep posting it here otherwise your going to end up locked away and you wouldnt want that


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02 Apr 2021, 5:09 am

I can't tell how much of this is just going on in your head and you are otherwise harmless. But if you really can't control your urge to commit a crime, especially a crime against a person (stalking is often terrifying and traumatic for the victim), then there is unlikely to be a defense that will keep you from loosing your liberty. You may not end up in jail if convicted, but the law will take actions to restrict your freedoms to keep the public safe.



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02 Apr 2021, 7:21 am

I am mostly talking abut accidentally crime caused by lack of social skills, NOT child porn.



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02 Apr 2021, 7:23 am

I already said two times and three times now, police officers explained to my parents that I did not do anything wrong.



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02 Apr 2021, 7:26 am

I am confused because I thought that I did, I would have been convicted by now, they have my IP address history.

The IP has everything for the police to know.



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02 Apr 2021, 7:43 am

In fact, there is. 1% chance that I am just hallucinating myself downloading child porn when in reality I am innocent- meaning that I don't have criminal records.

I am psychotic.



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02 Apr 2021, 7:45 am

I also believe my hallucination that I killed another child when I was 4 years old.



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02 Apr 2021, 9:12 am

FranzOren wrote:
In fact, there is. 1% chance that I am just hallucinating myself downloading child porn when in reality I am innocent- meaning that I don't have criminal records.

I am psychotic.


I’m sorry your claims make no sense

The only explanation I can think of is your parents got a fancy lawyer and your mental health report got you off, which doesn’t make you innocent it means you are clearly disturbed and maybe a danger to yourself or others. So get help.

A part of me thinks your posts on here are part of a scheme to claim insanity for something illegal you did where your still awaiting trial.

It wouldn’t surprise me.


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02 Apr 2021, 9:42 am

Thank you! I am sorry that I argued with you.

It is a possibility. Thank you for explaining!



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02 Apr 2021, 10:06 am

I would just claim diminished capacity.

I still knew from right and wrong, even though I have delusions, hallucinations and hypomania and sometimes depressive episodes.



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02 Apr 2021, 11:37 am

FranzOren wrote:
I know that annoying people and stalking is a crime

Stalking is a crime. Harassment is a crime. Simply "annoying people" is not necessarily a crime. People annoy each other all the time, in all sorts of ways, that aren't illegal.

If at all possible, you should talk to a lawyer to find out precisely how "stalking" and "harassment" are defined in your locale. This varies from one jurisdiction to another.

Of course you should try to avoid annoying people more generally as well. But only some annoyances are potentially crimes.


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