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21 Apr 2021, 1:09 pm

Are delusions related to Autism Spectrum Disorder?

I feel like I have delusional perception of the world, because I was born to see the world differently than mentally healthy people.

I feel so confused about my symptoms of Autism Spectrum Disorder.

I have fixed false beliefs of how I see the world.

The way I see the world feels kind of delusional to me.


I don't see optical illusions that easily.



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21 Apr 2021, 1:13 pm

Different processing of reality in ASD is not delusional - it's about what gets your attention and what slips it but the reality you process is the same as NTs'.

How do you know you have false beliefs?


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21 Apr 2021, 1:14 pm

I know that I have false beliefs, because I am on medications.



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21 Apr 2021, 1:15 pm

Does the medication help?


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21 Apr 2021, 1:18 pm

Yes! My medications helps me to pass reality testing.



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21 Apr 2021, 1:21 pm

Autistic people can be mentally healthy.

'Maladaptive daydreaming' is a thing but I think that's a misnomer: unless you genuinely believe it and/or it is taking time away from whatever is necessary in life - eg eating and sleeping and keeping a roof over your head.

Some autistic people can get a wrong idea in their heads and find it harder to shift. Because of one track/obsessive thinking.

Other autistic people can never fall for the nonsense in the first place. Because of logical and honest thinking and less tribal thinking.

Both can be a sign of stubbornness :lol:


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21 Apr 2021, 1:26 pm

To me is a little different. I sometimes become delusional because of my symptoms of ASD depending on the situation.

For example; I have false beliefs that my imaginary friends are real and I use it when I have hard time communicating with others.

I don't see optical illusions that easily. And I sometimes watch 3D animated pornography, because I feel very lonely and I have hard time communicating with others my age.

I also sometimes find it much easier to communicate with children.



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21 Apr 2021, 1:30 pm

While I can relate to NTs and feel what they're feeling often, I still have some thoughts that nobody else can relate to, even Aspies here. Maybe they're delusions?

It's like when I read in a magazine that a woman saved her cat in a fire but let her child die. I don't know the ins and outs, but while understanding the tragic event and feeling my deepest sympathy for the child and their family (please don't flag me as lacking empathy for humans please), I got upset when I saw a picture of the cat she had saved, but people reading the tragic story are supposed to feel angry at the woman and shaming her for putting the cute cat first. I'd be more appropriately responsive if there wasn't a picture of the cat she had saved. I do understand that a mother would instinctively save her baby but...ohh it's a delusion I think but nobody understands. Delusions are hard to explain in words to other people and they just accuse you of being insensitive, when it isn't that at all. I'm TOO sensitive I think, which is why I feel bad for both parties in most situations like this, rather than just the one you're "supposed to" feel bad for. Of course, I don't feel bad for evil people who abuse or kill innocent beings.


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21 Apr 2021, 1:31 pm

My personal experience is that autism and mental illness are two very separate issues.

It seems like you employ your imaginary friends as a way of coping with loneliness.


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21 Apr 2021, 1:35 pm

Joe90 wrote:
While I can relate to NTs and feel what they're feeling often, I still have some thoughts that nobody else can relate to, even Aspies here. Maybe they're delusions?

It's like when I read in a magazine that a woman saved her cat in a fire but let her child die. I don't know the ins and outs, but while understanding the tragic event and feeling my deepest sympathy for the child and their family (please don't flag me as lacking empathy for humans please), I got upset when I saw a picture of the cat she had saved, but people reading the tragic story are supposed to feel angry at the woman and shaming her for putting the cute cat first. I'd be more appropriately responsive if there wasn't a picture of the cat she had saved. I do understand that a mother would instinctively save her baby but...ohh it's a delusion I think but nobody understands. Delusions are hard to explain in words to other people and they just accuse you of being insensitive, when it isn't that at all. I'm TOO sensitive I think, which is why I feel bad for both parties in most situations like this, rather than just the one you're "supposed to" feel bad for. Of course, I don't feel bad for evil people who abuse or kill innocent beings.

I don't think these are delusions. It's an atypical emotional response but your cognitive process seems to be alright. You know what happened, you just feel something different than you expect you "should" feel. But that can happen to entirely mentally healthy person who e.g. has had atypical life experience.
Delusions are when the information about the reality gets seriously distorted.


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21 Apr 2021, 1:35 pm

Thank you! I understood.

Is paraphilia sometimes common with ASD?

I have paraphilic tendencies, because I have fantasies about having strange sex if I have a new girlfriend and I sometimes watch strange 3D animated pornography when I feel very lonely and when I have hard time communicating with others.

I also have a delusion that my imaginary friends are real, but I used that as a coping tool when I have hard time communicating with others.



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21 Apr 2021, 1:43 pm

FranzOren wrote:
Thank you! I understood.

Is paraphilia sometimes common with ASD?

I have paraphilic tendencies, because I have fantasies about having strange sex if I have a new girlfriend and I sometimes watch strange 3D animated pornography when I feel very lonely and when I have hard time communicating with others.

I also have a delusion that my imaginary friends are real, but I used that as a coping tool when I have hard time communicating with others.

I'm afraid your sexual development has been disrupted, possibly due to social development seriously lagging behind physical maturing :(


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21 Apr 2021, 1:46 pm

Thank you! I understood.

So, it is not paraphilia. I have developmentally delayed sexual fantasies.



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21 Apr 2021, 1:55 pm

FranzOren wrote:
Thank you! I understood.

So, it is not paraphilia. I have developmentally delayed sexual fantasies.

I'm not a specialist to determine that.


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21 Apr 2021, 2:23 pm

Thank you! I understood.



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22 Apr 2021, 12:52 am

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I don't think these are delusions. It's an atypical emotional response but your cognitive process seems to be alright. You know what happened, you just feel something different than you expect you "should" feel. But that can happen to entirely mentally healthy person who e.g. has had atypical life experience.
Delusions are when the information about the reality gets seriously distorted.


Oh I see. I don't have delusions then. I think I just have a different way of thinking, but I don't think differently all the time, as I can relate to others, understand their feelings and feel what they're feeling, etc. Maybe everyone has odd, unique thoughts that they're unable to explain in words to others or don't tell others due to fear of being judged or accused of lacking in empathy.
But yes, I am of sound mind. I just overfeel things is all. :)


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