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03 Oct 2021, 7:51 am

Is it really good to say that people with NT can focus on many details at once but people with ASD cannot?
I mean, sure NTs might be better at it but don't all people have difficulties focusing on many details at once?
Won't all people be better off not focusing on too many details at once?
We live in a lie that humans should be able to focus on many things at once? I think so.
I say that NT might be more flexible but not good at it.
NTs could learn a lot from Aspies, right?



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03 Oct 2021, 7:58 am

Ideally, they could learn from us. But it would have no practical bearing on their lives. It would benefit us, but, honestly, there's no incentive for them to learn from us.

NT definition of "multi-tasking" is different than ours. They don't like it, but they don't reach the point of being overwhelmed as quickly as we do. Things we may consider "multi-tasking" may still look like ordinary endeavors to them. No, they don't like multi-tasking. But they don't even consider what they're doing to be multi-tasking until a certain point.



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03 Oct 2021, 8:19 am

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
NT definition of "multi-tasking" is different than ours.

Could you please explain?
Is this really true? I am not so sure it is.
I think they just use their flexibilty as an excuse not to practice enough.
But even aspies might hate practising.



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03 Oct 2021, 8:53 am

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Ideally, they could learn from us. But it would have no practical bearing on their lives. It would benefit us, but, honestly, there's no incentive for them to learn from us.

NT definition of "multi-tasking" is different than ours. They don't like it, but they don't reach the point of being overwhelmed as quickly as we do. Things we may consider "multi-tasking" may still look like ordinary endeavors to them. No, they don't like multi-tasking. But they don't even consider what they're doing to be multi-tasking until a certain point.


Multitasking = Multifailing

I heard that somewhere so don't shout at me if I'm wrong.

Well to be honest I have loads going on in my head all at once and sometimes I can't even seem to focus on one thing at a time.

I can't speak for our NT friends but I've noticed that some of them like to pretend to be really organised. I think it has something to do with them looking as though they have their s**t together when really their lives are as troublesome and unorganised as mine.

Or maybe that's NTs and ASD alike.


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03 Oct 2021, 10:33 am

I have, at times, considered whether NTs are less concerned about precision, correctness, etc., than Aspies...and whether that difference might be a factor in perceived differences between NTs and Aspies.

I've read that NTs are more comfortable multi-tasking than Aspies are. Perhaps NTs are more comfortable doing multiple things at the same time because they are less concerned about doing each of them exactly right?


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03 Oct 2021, 10:40 am

Double Retired wrote:
I have, at times, considered whether NTs are less concerned about precision, correctness, etc., than Aspies...and whether that difference might be a factor in perceived differences between NTs and Aspies.

I've read that NTs are more comfortable multi-tasking than Aspies are. Perhaps NTs are more comfortable doing multiple things at the same time because they are less concerned about doing each of them exactly right?


I don't know because I've never been too concerned about precision. I'm more concerned with the end result of something and getting it done that precision flies out of the window for me. It's difficult for me to see a task to completion anyway.

My daughter on the other hand will spend all day on doing the smallest of tasks and it has to be perfect.

She is diagnosed with hfa and I'm an old skool aspie.

I do have adhd as well so maybe that's where the difference is.


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03 Oct 2021, 12:07 pm

Perhaps your concept of "done correctly" has a large portion of "done completely" built in...completion being the important attribute for a sense of correctness.

As far as often not reaching completion...maybe that is the ADHD?

Though I have a lot of things I've started but not completed, too. But I haven't abandoned them, they are sort of works-in-progress that aren't progressing right now but I still intend to get back to them...at some point...and move them closer to completion.


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03 Oct 2021, 12:25 pm

Well I do have quite a good eye so I can do things quite quickly and they are of an acceptable standard. Like if I'm wallpapering it will all match up so you can't see the joins but if it wasn't 100% on point it wouldn't really bother me and I would want it done fast so I can see the end result.

I'm glad you have a few projects on the go.

My dad used to have loads of works in progress. His favourite was a bike that he was building. Not sure if he actually ever finished it but he did take a great deal of care over it when he was working on it.


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03 Oct 2021, 12:52 pm

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I'm glad you have a few projects on the go.
Quite a few. Some of them might be of questionable utility but still are things I intend to do.

Oh, I'm also very good at wasting time.

Plus, I have a very clear MBTI introversion preference.

So, staying holed up at home during the Pandemic sort of resembles what I was doing pre-Pandemic. (Though I miss fast-food.)


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03 Oct 2021, 3:14 pm

Double Retired wrote:
I have, at times, considered whether NTs are less concerned about precision, correctness, etc., than Aspies...and whether that difference might be a factor in perceived differences between NTs and Aspies.

I've read that NTs are more comfortable multi-tasking than Aspies are. Perhaps NTs are more comfortable doing multiple things at the same time because they are less concerned about doing each of them exactly right?

To me it's like many NTs hate practicing or going through stuff. Practising is hard
But many NTs are also perfectionist.
Aspies can hate practicing as well and I have seen it.
I have been to group lessons in dancing and most really only wanted a quick exercise before they moved on to dance (at least that is how I remember it). Did they become good at it? No bit I guess they did not care. They never had a real interest in the dances I think. But I have seen good dance instructions. Why do people hate learning and practicing?
It's like they goal for many people is to practice as little as possible.
I have heard people arguing that just dancing will make you a better dancer bit I am not so sure. You're just hoping you'll succeed.
I guess most people think repetition is the only thing you need and lots of it. Is this a common idea? It seems kinda crazy and it forces you to focus on too many things at once.
We need deliberate practice, right?



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03 Oct 2021, 3:45 pm

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ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Ideally, they could learn from us. But it would have no practical bearing on their lives. It would benefit us, but, honestly, there's no incentive for them to learn from us.

NT definition of "multi-tasking" is different than ours. They don't like it, but they don't reach the point of being overwhelmed as quickly as we do. Things we may consider "multi-tasking" may still look like ordinary endeavors to them. No, they don't like multi-tasking. But they don't even consider what they're doing to be multi-tasking until a certain point.


Multitasking = Multifailing

I heard that somewhere so don't shout at me if I'm wrong.

Well to be honest I have loads going on in my head all at once and sometimes I can't even seem to focus on one thing at a time.

I can't speak for our NT friends but I've noticed that some of them like to pretend to be really organised. I think it has something to do with them looking as though they have their s**t together when really their lives are as troublesome and unorganised as mine.

Or maybe that's NTs and ASD alike.

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