About unusual studies between HFA and criminal behavior

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There are a few articles that state that HFA can highten the risk for criminal behavior, but it's unusual because, in those situations, it's related to lack of social skills, not out of maliciousness or sadism. And those few studies are unusual, because most scientific articles states that most people with ASD are less likely to commit crimes and more likely to be victims than being perpetrators.


Those unusual studies:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3416662/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17294982/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17032961/

https://youtu.be/7GjuAdqi1nA

In general I would say the study is wrong. Most Aspies are not criminals. But the study may have to do with being an Aspie.

For example, many Aspies do not make eye to eye contact. Most NTs who are deep in a conversation automatically assume that someone who does not make eye to eye contact is LYING, AND HAS CRIMINAL INTENTIONS.

But in reality this is not the case. So they automatically assume from the get-go that we have malicious intents.

I will give an example. Several years ago I bought a type of one-way-glasses. It looked like I was wearing a pair of sunglasses but it was really a type of one way glasses. I would wear these glasses everywhere. It produced a very unusual experience. People would come up to me and begin conversations with me out of the blue. Many people began to trust me as if I was their friend. It was a totally different world.

Because they could not see my eyes, they just automatically assumed I was an NT.

A very simple move can transform you from an Aspie to an NT. And strangers on the street personality towards you change.

Most people with autism don't engage in criminal activity.

Of those who do, inability to understand social norms might be a contributing factor to their criminality.

The study FranzOren has linked to isn't about people diagnosed as Aspergers, it's about people diagnosed as HFA and specifically focuses on how more severe social impairments play a role, relative to people with Aspergers.

Also worth noting, and contrary to preferred opinion here:

That actually makes sense sense. Thank you!

It's just that Prof. Sam Vaknin explaind that crimes committed by people with HFA is actually violent, but I don't know if that is accurate. I think it's more accurate that crimes related to Communication Disorders and Autism Spectrum Disorder is associated with lack of understanding social boundaries and someone having meltdown than being violent. Statistically, most people with ASD are less likely to be malicious, sadistic and are more likely to be victims than the general population, especially antisocial people, but when small sub-groups of people with ASD are malicious and sadistic, they tend to have Distributive, Impulsive Control and Conduct Disorders.

thanks for those links, there has been so little study done on autism and autistic folk who are in jail for any reason. Crime has been associated in a few studies to intellectual disabilities or impairment, but no studies of general population have been done to attempt to learn how many incarcerated or with criminal records might have enough autistic traits for diagnosis. Todays understanding of the ties (if any) between crime and autism is sorely lacking. I appreciate your bringing this topic up for discussion. thank you

You guys brought up good points.

But, I wonder if I am right that crimes related to associated with Communication Disorder and Autism Spectrum Disorder is related to lack of social boundaries and when violence has accrued, it was due to huge misunderstandings.

Sources:

http://jaapl.org/content/40/2/177

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22635288/

Criminality amongst people with autism is much less than within the general population.

This obsession with associating autism with criminality and socio/psychopathy is based on fallacious reasoning.

And it causes people on WrongPlanet to feel like they are less than they actually are. This upsets me.

There is absolutely no proof to any of these assertions, there has not been any scientific evidence presented in actual studies involving large numbers of people (making a study more likely to be valuable by statistics) and it is one of those social "myths" perpetuated by media and self-important so called "professor" types.

Autistic individuals have actually been documented in multiple studies to be a very high percentage of victims of crime of all sorts rather than being perpetrators. That HAS been documented.

Stigma is something most of us have experienced in our lives, and assumptions of alleged criminality made by people on social media can be blown up and misrepresented rapidly, doing much harm. Call out such assumptions when and where you find them.

I will loudly repudiate and contest such assumptions whenever possible.
Look at all the "theories" and "treatments" of the past for examples of this sort of thing.

A quick search of Sam Vaknin's credentials show he is a highly contested fake and fraud, phony seeking attention and profit. He has absolutely no expertise in the areas of psychology and psychiatry he discusses on youtube. To seek facts, one looks at studies, don't trust media self adulating "experts".

I look forward to seeing you refute the studies FranzOren linked, supposing you've got something that actually addresses those studies. So far no one's ever presented anything that would qualify no matter how often it's promised.