Are my obsessions' timescales normal?

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14 Sep 2023, 8:25 am

I only have very short lived obsessions, some last a year, some a lot less. But definitely not lifelong obsessions, unlike people with autism are 'supposed' to have. I seem to know a lot of autistic people online now, and most of them are obsessed with certain things/ people/ shows/ characters/ whatever. And they stick with them. Constantly talking, researching, writing about them etc.

Whereas I get impatient. Move on! I want to say. Haven't you obsessed over 'that' enough? What's your next obsession? How do you not get bored with one thing?

The list of my obsessions is sooooo long, going back over my life. And once I've lost interest in something, that's it. I never go back, or very rarely.

Is this normal autistic behaviour or is it something else? It is a major reason I suspect I'm not actually autistic.


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14 Sep 2023, 9:27 am

I've heard of other autistic people with this experience, and it matches my own.

What I find interesting though is that probably 4/5 of my "phases" as I had called them pre-diagnosis all seemed to fit under the larger umbrella of music or technology. These hyperfixations would often be radically different from each other, but lie under those larger categories.

Have you experienced this too? A "macro" special interest?

Of course, I've had many fixations that did not fit cleanly into those categories, but as I've heard it said, "Nature rarely draws a line without smudging it."

EDIT: Do you identify with having ADHD as well? I often wonder if these paradoxically restricted-yet-diverse interests come from seeking stimulation (ADHD) whilst simultaneously seeking routine (ASD).


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14 Sep 2023, 9:43 am

You don't have to have special interests to be an autistic person.

Under the DSM IV, Asperger's Syndrome was the condition that had 'special interest' associated with it, but other forms of autism that now come under the umbrella term of 'autistic spectrum disorder' don't necessarily have special interests as a feature.



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14 Sep 2023, 11:19 am

theboogieman wrote:
I've heard of other autistic people with this experience, and it matches my own.

What I find interesting though is that probably 4/5 of my "phases" as I had called them pre-diagnosis all seemed to fit under the larger umbrella of music or technology. These hyperfixations would often be radically different from each other, but lie under those larger categories.

Have you experienced this too? A "macro" special interest?

Of course, I've had many fixations that did not fit cleanly into those categories, but as I've heard it said, "Nature rarely draws a line without smudging it."

EDIT: Do you identify with having ADHD as well? I often wonder if these paradoxically restricted-yet-diverse interests come from seeking stimulation (ADHD) whilst simultaneously seeking routine (ASD).


Yes, my macro is probably writing stories, obsessing over characters and plots. Most of my obsessions come under that and even if it's something else, I usually write a story about it. I tend to read my stories over and over again obsessively or sometimes other people's stories. And/or relationships. I'm obsessed with how people relate to each other and their interactions, and obviously that can fit into writing stories.

I've never, ever suspected I have ADHD, I'm more slow and cautious.

I'm pretty sure my mum and aunt had ADHD though.


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14 Sep 2023, 11:22 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
You don't have to have special interests to be an autistic person.

Under the DSM IV, Asperger's Syndrome was the condition that had 'special interest' associated with it, but other forms of autism that now come under the umbrella term of 'autistic spectrum disorder' don't necessarily have special interests as a feature.


Oh that's interesting. I suppose it's my spikey profile or whatever it's called. I don't seem to have long-lasting special interests and I also don't have any stims that I know of. Whereas I do have problems with social interaction.

Whereas my daughter has loads of stims and she's been obsessed with cats since birth, more or less. She seems better at social interaction however.

All our spikey profiles are different under the autistic umbrella.


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14 Sep 2023, 12:09 pm

I don't have typical autistic like special interests either. Mine are similar to yours where I might really get obsessed with something for a year max, but normally it isn't such a long time, usually only a few weeks or maybe months. I don't feel like my obsessions are as intense as others seem to experience, and I don't even know if these things count as special interests either or just something I get into for a bit. Most of the things I get obsessed with, I don't get into again later either. Some things cycle back or stay in the same kind of 'theme', but usually it's like I burn myself out on it and then move on, completely abandoning whatever it was I was into.



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14 Sep 2023, 12:11 pm

KitLily wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
You don't have to have special interests to be an autistic person.

Under the DSM IV, Asperger's Syndrome was the condition that had 'special interest' associated with it, but other forms of autism that now come under the umbrella term of 'autistic spectrum disorder' don't necessarily have special interests as a feature.


Oh that's interesting. I suppose it's my spikey profile or whatever it's called. I don't seem to have long-lasting special interests and I also don't have any stims that I know of. Whereas I do have problems with social interaction.

Whereas my daughter has loads of stims and she's been obsessed with cats since birth, more or less. She seems better at social interaction however.

All our spikey profiles are different under the autistic umbrella.


A lot of people who had PDD-NOS or High Functioning Autism as opposed to Asperger's Syndrome, back when the DSM IV was relevant, all now would be diagnosed with the simple term autistic spectrum disorder nowadays.

I think it is a good thing as many people didn't fit neatly into one category within the old system.



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14 Sep 2023, 12:52 pm

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A lot of people who had PDD-NOS or High Functioning Autism as opposed to Asperger's Syndrome, back when the DSM IV was relevant, all now would be diagnosed with the simple term autistic spectrum disorder nowadays.

I think it is a good thing as many people didn't fit neatly into one category within the old system.


I had to look up PDD-NOS and it sounds very vague.

Simplification is good, I agree.


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14 Sep 2023, 1:25 pm

I wouldn't call mine obsessions so much as individual time with hyperfocus. I spent more time than a NT person might with puzzles and collections. Mazes, jigsaw puzzles, logic puzzles, now genealogy. Model horses, stickers, coins, stamps, now experiences. I consider dance a special interest although I don't pursue it so much as enjoy it - I did dance class as a kid, dance whenever I can socially, met my spouse dancing, my BFF shares that passion, I catch the occasional theatre production (like Stomp). Perhaps an NT would have a well-paced hobby that they share? Mine go in intense spurts and are not as easily shared (unless with like-minded or open-minded folks).



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14 Sep 2023, 1:51 pm

FleaOfTheChill wrote:
I don't have typical autistic like special interests either. Mine are similar to yours where I might really get obsessed with something for a year max, but normally it isn't such a long time, usually only a few weeks or maybe months. I don't feel like my obsessions are as intense as others seem to experience, and I don't even know if these things count as special interests either or just something I get into for a bit. Most of the things I get obsessed with, I don't get into again later either. Some things cycle back or stay in the same kind of 'theme', but usually it's like I burn myself out on it and then move on, completely abandoning whatever it was I was into.


That seems exactly like what I experience :) My interests aren't particularly unusual- shows, characters, actors, stories etc. The same interests as lots and lots of people, especially women. Maybe I'm too old for such interests, maybe that's the 'unusual' aspect? I'm supposed to have grown out of those interests?


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14 Sep 2023, 1:53 pm

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Perhaps an NT would have a well-paced hobby that they share? Mine go in intense spurts and are not as easily shared (unless with like-minded or open-minded folks).


Yes that sounds like me too. When I lose interest in something or someone it's like a door shuts and I move on immediately, without going back.

It has been extremely useful in protecting me from people who try to use me. I'm very interested at first then just lose interest and drop them forever :lol:


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14 Sep 2023, 6:23 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
KitLily wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
You don't have to have special interests to be an autistic person.

Under the DSM IV, Asperger's Syndrome was the condition that had 'special interest' associated with it, but other forms of autism that now come under the umbrella term of 'autistic spectrum disorder' don't necessarily have special interests as a feature.


Oh that's interesting. I suppose it's my spikey profile or whatever it's called. I don't seem to have long-lasting special interests and I also don't have any stims that I know of. Whereas I do have problems with social interaction.

Whereas my daughter has loads of stims and she's been obsessed with cats since birth, more or less. She seems better at social interaction however.

All our spikey profiles are different under the autistic umbrella.


A lot of people who had PDD-NOS or High Functioning Autism as opposed to Asperger's Syndrome, back when the DSM IV was relevant, all now would be diagnosed with the simple term autistic spectrum disorder nowadays.

I think it is a good thing as many people didn't fit neatly into one category within the old system.

A minority of those that were disposable under those are now diagnosable under ASD or SPCD.

I thought the same thing, but the overall spectrum was shrunk to avoid dealing with the messy cases that weren't reliably being diagnosed.



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14 Sep 2023, 6:30 pm

KitLily wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
A lot of people who had PDD-NOS or High Functioning Autism as opposed to Asperger's Syndrome, back when the DSM IV was relevant, all now would be diagnosed with the simple term autistic spectrum disorder nowadays.

I think it is a good thing as many people didn't fit neatly into one category within the old system.


I had to look up PDD-NOS and it sounds very vague.

Simplification is good, I agree.

It's not really that vague, it's a common practice to have NOS diagnoses to catch cases that need treatment, but are abnormal in some way. PDD-NOS was useful for those that couldn't participate in the evaluation process or whose traits weren't clear until later or who had something developmental going on that was significant enough to warrant treatment, but was excluded from other diagnoses.

It's a real form of autism, but only a fraction of those that had been diagnosed would be under the DSM 5 and in most cases there is no diagnosis of any sort despite there still needing to be treatment and support in many cases.

Anyways, the solution was to fix the diagnosis to have fewer mistakes made not nuke it from high orbit.



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15 Sep 2023, 2:51 am

I wouldn't know, I'm afraid. Whenever I go to the doctor they usually ignore my problems. I was amazed to even get an autism diagnosis and be taken seriously for once in my life.


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15 Sep 2023, 6:06 am

Mine are often intense and short-lived. But recurring. For example I've been interested in the Titanic since the wreck was discovered when I was 6. It's been a lifelong interest but it periodically becomes an obsession and it's all I can think about for a while. Then it wanes but it's always there in the background. Same with a guy called Whittaker Wright who was a big deal in the Victorian era. I'm currently deep in to a dismantled railway line that runs near me - I'm trying to find out if a tunnel that once existed is still there in some form. Finding bits of history that left markers in the landscape is another on and off obsession. But yes, intense and short-lived. That's my obsessions.


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15 Sep 2023, 10:14 pm

There have been times in my life when I have had obsessive special interests that lasted for a few years, and other long periods when I have not had any. The special interests I have had have been the sort of thing a young girl might become obsessed with, like a band, not intellectual interests where one becomes obsessed with knowledge about a specific subject, like, I don't know, mushrooms or airplanes.

But I am only on the edge of being autistic. I have been assessed twice and both times it came back inconclusive (not a definite yes and not a definite no). I think I have clear autistic traits, but not a sufficient combination of traits for it to be considered clinically definitive.