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31 May 2024, 1:14 pm

Are there any good supplements for suppressing ASD/ADHD traits. I’m trying to do a brain hack



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31 May 2024, 1:16 pm

No.


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31 May 2024, 1:17 pm

Not even ones they sell at vitamin stores?



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31 May 2024, 1:17 pm

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Not even ones they sell at vitamin stores?

No, most of that stuff is a money-making scam that doesn’t have much to offer outside of a placebo effect.


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31 May 2024, 1:40 pm

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Are there any good supplements for suppressing ASD/ADHD traits. I’m trying to do a brain hack

You're best bet is to just make sure that you're getting the vitamins and minerals that you need in your diet and then supplementing whatever it is that you're low in if need be. Also, exercise is great for the brain.

I have seen folks suggesting that Zinc, Magnesium and B-6 are potential things to supplement, but really, you're probably better off just trying to eat a healthy diet and keep the sugar intake to a minimum.



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31 May 2024, 1:43 pm

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Not even ones they sell at vitamin stores?


Unless you've identified some sort of on-going deficiency you'll just be paying to have expensive piss.

If you have identified an on-going deficiency addressing it might make a significant difference.


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31 May 2024, 2:00 pm

I tried all sorts of supplements as a young adult.

The only one that really reliably made a difference was probably Vitamin C in high doses, it gave me a bit more energy and I don't think it was a placebo effect as it was too noticeable and I didn't benefit from some of the other supplements I tried, so it wasn't like I couldn't differentiate.



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31 May 2024, 2:09 pm

There are no known 'suppression' methods.
Only becoming 'stronger'.


One way is to simply become healthier in general.
Do your routine check up and your bloodwork.
And your typical health advice; exercise, eat healthy, sleep well...

Any of issues from these can be a hidden energy thief that makes everything harder.



Anything past that is a gamble...


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31 May 2024, 2:14 pm

Creatine supplementation may benefit brain function, memory, intelligence, and reasoning.

Excerpt from linked article in Psychology Today:

"Creatine and the brain's energy metabolism

Our brains are incredibly energy intensive, using over 20 percent of our body's energy despite only making up around 2 percent of our weight. With this in mind, creatine's energy-supplementing effect could, in theory, present a significant benefit for the brain.

Research has revealed that supplemental oral creatine does increase the brain's creatine levels and may help counteract mental fatigue. Access to extra brain fuel may help explain the diverse brain benefits of creatine supplementation.

Creatine and memory

Creatine is somewhat unique in this regard. In a robust 2022 meta-analysis, it was concluded that creatine supplementation significantly improved memory (compared to placebo). This improvement was particularly impressive among older adults (aged 66-77).

Creatine, intelligence, and reasoning

Like memory, few supplement-based interventions are linked to improved intelligence scores. That's what makes the data on creatine all the more interesting. In a systematic review of randomized trials published in 2018, researchers concluded that oral creatine supplementation may improve healthy individuals' intelligence and reasoning abilities

Who could benefit most from creatine?

To date, the best data for the brain benefits of creatine supplementation appear to be in older adults, and potentially especially those who are vegan or vegetarian. Given what we know about its role in brain energy, it may be worth special consideration when our brains are under higher levels of metabolic stress (for example, if we're sleep-deprived or psychologically stressed)."


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31 May 2024, 3:05 pm

FrostBender wrote:
Are there any good supplements for suppressing ASD/ADHD traits. I’m trying to do a brain hack


Huge doses of choline and omega-3 suposedly help somewhat with ADHD:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10343507/
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... l-for-adhd

Some trials suggest some improvement, some don't. At any rate, eating fish and a Mediterranean diet, or an even better Mind diet can be helpful.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/mi ... and%20wine.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/me ... -meal-plan

Some nootropics can help as well, but for these, the trials are very inconclusive.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4968082/
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supp ... s-overview


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01 Jun 2024, 3:14 am

The only supplements I bother with are Vitamin D3 and calcium chloride - not as a direct autism fix, it was just that I noticed my diet was deficient in those two, so it's to correct that. All part of my general health management, which I think has more than a placebo effect on how I handle ASD. Mostly common sense with the benefit of some education in nutrition. I know that when I'm in poor health I don't have the "energy" to do a very careful job socially.

My only experience with trying to directly intervene via nutrition etc. was a couple of baths in magnesium sulphate, and there was no effect.

I got some choline bitartrate but only took enough to top my dietary intake up to the RDA of 550mg/day. They say you don't get any side effects with up to 3500mg/day, above that isn't recommended. I'd try upping the dose but my pack of choline got subjected to heat over a few months, so I wouldn't know what I was eating.

Anyway I don't have much faith in these things to help with ASD, so I wouldn't bother trying anything that wasn't very cheap, easy and known to be fairly safe.

I heard that amphetamine may be useful but that it has a bad track record for side effects, addiction and abuse, so I'd only try that under well-controlled conditions, and I don't feel all that dissatisfied with my brain in the first place. I doubt it would help my social intelligence.



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01 Jun 2024, 7:30 am

I’m also trying to aggressively lose weight. I’m 211lbs and 6’ 2”. I should be around 180-190lbs. I’m trying extreme fasting and only drinking water. I don’t care at this point if I develop an eating disorder. I want to be physically attractive to (NT) women. Plus society might excuse some of my autistic tendencies if I’m attractive.



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01 Jun 2024, 10:11 pm

FrostBender wrote:
I’m also trying to aggressively lose weight. I’m 211lbs and 6’ 2”. I should be around 180-190lbs. I’m trying extreme fasting and only drinking water. I don’t care at this point if I develop an eating disorder. I want to be physically attractive to (NT) women. Plus society might excuse some of my autistic tendencies if I’m attractive.

I feel for you. None of this is going to end well.



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04 Jun 2024, 5:12 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
FrostBender wrote:
I’m also trying to aggressively lose weight. I’m 211lbs and 6’ 2”. I should be around 180-190lbs. I’m trying extreme fasting and only drinking water. I don’t care at this point if I develop an eating disorder. I want to be physically attractive to (NT) women. Plus society might excuse some of my autistic tendencies if I’m attractive.

I feel for you. None of this is going to end well.

I don’t mind a little suffering if it makes me look normal. Plus being hot will give me automatic confidence.



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05 Jun 2024, 12:22 am

FrostBender wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
FrostBender wrote:
I’m also trying to aggressively lose weight. I’m 211lbs and 6’ 2”. I should be around 180-190lbs. I’m trying extreme fasting and only drinking water. I don’t care at this point if I develop an eating disorder. I want to be physically attractive to (NT) women. Plus society might excuse some of my autistic tendencies if I’m attractive.

I feel for you. None of this is going to end well.

I don’t mind a little suffering if it makes me look normal. Plus being hot will give me automatic confidence.

Trust me, being hot didn't bring me confidence. If anything, it made me less confident because I was less sure if the responses I got were real responses or a reaction to my looks. And it made dating even more frustrating. It's also what led to those times on TV and a bunch of acting and having no idea who I was until decades later

As annoying as it can be, this stuff is complicated.



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08 Jun 2024, 7:57 am

I thought being attractive would make my life easier.