Does the Myers-Briggs system really apply to us?

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13 Nov 2007, 9:18 pm

I understand that we aspies can and do have drastically different personalities.
Nonetheless, Carl Jung studied psychologically normal people.
We aren't psychologically normal.
Jung's system involves combinations that I don't believe apply to us aspies.
Does the Myers-Briggs system really apply to us?

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13 Nov 2007, 9:21 pm

the results from myers brigg i took described me rather well.

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13 Nov 2007, 9:28 pm

tinky wrote:

the results from myers brigg i took described me rather well.

Of course they do!
It will come close, but when you go deeper into the theory, you have to question it more.
More specifically, I'm referring to functions.
Aspies seem likely to come out as INFJ, for instance, but that seems so very questionable because of the INFJ secondary function of Extraverted Feeling, which is all the social things we are supposed to be horrible at.

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13 Nov 2007, 9:45 pm

I got ENFP. How rare is it for an Aspie to get E***?

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13 Nov 2007, 9:51 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

I got ENFP. How rare is it for an Aspie to get E***?

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I would say it's incredibly rare.
Asperger's syndrome seems to promote I and J, which is another problem I have with applying the system to us.

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13 Nov 2007, 9:53 pm

Well, technically, the Myers-Briggs doesn't accurately apply to anyone. Even though many people get the same result each time, it does not actually measure personality--it gives a rough idea of how the test-taker views himself/herself. It is not an objective test and therefore not scientifically valid. But it is fun.

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13 Nov 2007, 9:54 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

I got ENFP. How rare is it for an Aspie to get E***?

Tim

That is why you are borderline. Most posts I see your response to you someone else having difficulties in an area, you state you are capable. Then I read another thread that said you are borderline AS/NT. That now makes alot more sense.

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13 Nov 2007, 9:54 pm

Tim_Tex,

My father is E, and he's an "aspie"; I'm I. It's 50/50 where I come from.

As an aside: I find it cool how you break the online Asperger's tests, but it's clear as night that you have Asperger's.

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13 Nov 2007, 9:55 pm

Danielismyname wrote:

Tim_Tex,

My father is E, and he's an "aspie"; I'm I. It's 50/50 where I come from.

As an aside: I find it cool how you break the online Asperger's tests but it's clear as night that you have Asperger's.

That's what I think too.

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13 Nov 2007, 11:21 pm

Helek_Aphel wrote:

Nonetheless, Carl Jung studied psychologically normal people.
We aren't psychologically normal.
Jung's system involves combinations that I don't believe apply to us aspies.
Does the Myers-Briggs system really apply to us?

If you are interested in the test in-depth, I recommend the 1989 book Gifts Differing by Isabel Briggs Myers. One interesting part is, she breaks the results down over very different groups of people (for example "high school students, college prep"; "high school students, other than college prep;" Rhodes scholars; and Urban Police). It's interesting how the different groups break down so differently into the 16 types, percentage-wise.
I wonder if anyone has done an official study (not just an Internet poll of people who have taken an abridged version of the test) of the frequency of each of the 16 types amongst those diagnosed on the ASD spectrum. I personally love categorizing anything and everything (I should have said, having everything pre-categoized for me, as this is something I am incapable of doing). Therefore, I love the MBTI.
I forgot to mention- I'm an INFP.

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13 Nov 2007, 11:35 pm

I am on the borderline of INTP/INTJ, and the descriptions of both of those describe me pretty well.

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13 Nov 2007, 11:43 pm

my result was INFP. i'm retaking the test right now.

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14 Nov 2007, 2:07 am

I am a strong example of INTP and a lot of the descriptions for that "type" fit me well. The majority of people, NT or not, don't fit nicely in the Myers-Briggs system. I think it works well for people who score in the extremes, but not so well for people whose score falls more in the middle.

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14 Nov 2007, 4:10 am

Tim_Tex wrote:

I got ENFP. How rare is it for an Aspie to get E***?

Tim

I am also ENFP. Mind you i am sort of AS/ADD.

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14 Nov 2007, 5:54 am

riverotter wrote:

I personally love categorizing anything and everything. I'm an INFP.

INFP-
Primary Function- Introverted Feeling
Secondary Function- Extraverted iNtuition
Tertiary Function- Introverted Sensing
Fourth Function- Extraverted Thinking
Categorization is a part of Extraverted Thinking, and it's your fourth function. How then can you love categorizing?

I'm not looking for personal answers right now. I'm looking for the theory of the system so that I can know whether or not it actually works with us.
With the Myers-Briggs system, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
I acknowledge that the sum of the parts works with us, but the system is designed for psychologically normal people.
I doubt it's possible for us to have a whole type that accurately describes us (as individuals) because the pieces work together in certain ways for normal people that don't seem to happen with us.

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14 Nov 2007, 6:02 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:

I am on the borderline of INTP/INTJ, and the descriptions of both of those describe me pretty well.

I am the same. Damnit, you're the second person I've met here who's right on that line. I thought I was unique.

Quoted from what I've written before:

"MBTI/Jung-type Profile:: INTP

The "Architect". Greatest precision in thought and language. Can readily discern contradictions and inconsistencies. The world exists primarily to be understood.

I tend to be a very strong I, and a fairly strong N; I'm very borderline wrt T vs. F and P vs. J. I always seem to fall just a bit on the T side, but often I come out as an INTJ (the "Mastermind") on these tests. Make of that what you will."

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