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29 Jul 2005, 5:09 pm

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Oh well. But for all in the UK, they can go to the police and get a card that tells they have an Autistic Spectrum Disorder, and that will reduce the severity of any sentence of theirs (theoretically).

If you get one of those, I wouldn't be suprised if that caused you troube in the future if you plan on trying to get a gun license someday.



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30 Jul 2005, 7:13 am

Sean wrote:
Malcolm_Scipo wrote:
Oh well. But for all in the UK, they can go to the police and get a card that tells they have an Autistic Spectrum Disorder, and that will reduce the severity of any sentence of theirs (theoretically).

If you get one of those, I wouldn't be suprised if that caused you troube in the future if you plan on trying to get a gun license someday.


I was thinking about that the other day. I wondered if it would even be possible for me to get a gun license since a background check on me would reveal many autism related things about me. I even wonder if my autism is a matter of public record, since Social Security has DX'd it and DMV has records of it also.


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30 Jul 2005, 8:50 am

Sean wrote:
Malcolm_Scipo wrote:
Oh well. But for all in the UK, they can go to the police and get a card that tells they have an Autistic Spectrum Disorder, and that will reduce the severity of any sentence of theirs (theoretically).

If you get one of those, I wouldn't be suprised if that caused you troube in the future if you plan on trying to get a gun license someday.

True.... then I won't get one. I want a gun!


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30 Jul 2005, 6:16 pm

Not that I would want a gun, but they could just check my number of hospital stays and that would rule me out. Fortunately, it rules me out for the Armed Services as well, so in case the draft is ever reinstated in the US I'm on easy street.

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30 Jul 2005, 7:23 pm

DeepThought wrote:
I was thinking about that the other day. I wondered if it would even be possible for me to get a gun license since a background check on me would reveal many autism related things about me. I even wonder if my autism is a matter of public record, since Social Security has DX'd it and DMV has records of it also.

Where do you live?

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True.... then I won't get one. I want a gun!

There are a few other things to take into consideration if you plan to own and use a gun responsibly, but since that is outside the scope of this thread, you should either PM me or start a new thread on the subject. Starting a new thread would probably be best.



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30 Jul 2005, 8:31 pm

Sophist wrote:
Not that I would want a gun, but they could just check my number of hospital stays and that would rule me out. Fortunately, it rules me out for the Armed Services as well, so in case the draft is ever reinstated in the US I'm on easy street.

Depending on the circumstances surrounding each time you were commited, you might only be ineligable for a Federal Firearms License for a machine gun. You still might be able to get any gun that anyone else can get without special permits and you might still even qualify for a concealed weapons permit depending on where you live.



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30 Jul 2005, 8:44 pm

Permits? Permits are crap. The government of Canada wants people to own pellet guns that generate 500 Feet per second or less which couldn't kill a flea! However, some people like to play with springs and seals and get 1100+ FPS, equivalent to an average .22 cal. Why?... because maybe they have seen episodes where people have tried to steal from them before and the police don't do anything but give criminals rights while they throw victims rights down the
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30 Jul 2005, 8:50 pm

Absolute_Zero wrote:
Permits? Permits are crap. The government of Canada wants people to own pellet guns that generate 500 Feet per second or less which couldn't kill a flea! However, some people like to play with springs and seals and get 1100+ FPS, equivalent to an average .22 cal. Why?... because maybe they have seen episodes where people have tried to steal from them before and the police don't do anything but give criminals rights while they throw victims rights down the sh!tter.

8O I thought they only banned handguns? They banned everything???
I know permits suck. That's why I plan on building a Thompson SMG out of cannibalized parts and aquriring a homemade open bolt for to turn a (California legal) M-1a into and M-14. I think it would be wise to have a few guns stashed away that don't have a paper trail in case the government makes a collection attempt someday.



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30 Jul 2005, 8:52 pm

Moderators, can you please split off the discussion on guns into a new thread?



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30 Jul 2005, 10:50 pm

Done as requested!



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30 Jul 2005, 10:52 pm

Thanks Magic. :)



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31 Jul 2005, 1:55 am

what on EARTH would anyone want a machine gun for? the wretched things are designed to kill lots of people, fast. i really don't think "self protection" comes under that heading - it's definitely assault rather than defence.

/me looks boggled...



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31 Jul 2005, 2:04 am

Machine guns are almost always used for recreational target shooting here. Personally I think a machine gun would be great for self defense and I don't see any reason to regulate them.

Oh yeah, a license for a machine gun also makes int legal to own scilencers in States that do not specifically ban them and there's a seperate license available for explosives and grenade launchers. So in the US, it is theoretically possible to get licenses making it legal for you to carry a machine gun with a grenade launcher under a trenchcoat. Though personally, I'd prefer a concealed Glock or Baretta 9mm with an 18 round magazine and a selective fire switch.



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31 Jul 2005, 5:51 am

btw, the US won't have a draft any time in the next few decades

some fool (Charlie Rangel - Democrat [from New York?]) introduced a bill a few months ago for a draft and it got like 3 votes for it and 400 against it. I don't even think the author voted for it lol.


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31 Jul 2005, 7:33 am

Sean wrote:
Where do you live?


I am in the US.


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31 Jul 2005, 11:02 am

Luckily I live in a country in which it is quite difficult to get a gun.

I think that if you statistically compare the number of killings by a gun in America and in countries in Europe, America will have the doubtfull honour of the most dead people on average.

So, maybe someone can explain to me the sense of giving everybody a gun?

What about e.g. children finding a gun in their house and accidentilly killing themselves or a family-member. Is that worth the little extra safety of self-defense? And does this really give you extra safety if you know that the neighbour next to you also has a gun?